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UFO’s & Rock – An interview with Scottish rock band CEIV By Philip Mantle. Des nouvelles du Brésil Appletreewick Revisted! - SURESNES - MME A - UNE DAME POUR QUI LES SPECTACLES DU CIEL SONT SOUVENT CEUX D'UNE AUTRE DIMENSION,? - INTERVIEW WITH ARTHUR C. CLARKE (en anglais) - UFO Crash in North Texas, 1891 (en anglais) - Lettre à l'éditeur et au rédacteur en chef du Stephenville Empire-Tribune comme protestation contre la mise à la porte d'Angelia Joiner pour avoir couvert l'observation d'ovni de Stephenville. - Observation d'ovni avec des effets physiques au Brésil, 20 janvier 2008 - Stanton Friedman : Lettre ouverte au Dr David Morrision. Mufon Journal Janvier 2008 - La photo de Monsieur Tony Hartono, ingénieur, qui le 22 septembre 1975 a pris la photo d'un ovni alors qu'il était à bord de la plateforme l'Arjuna, située au large, côte Ouest de Java ( Indonésie) - L'étude d'Anne Duflot : Impact initiatique du phénomène OVNI; - Abduction , le cas d'Hélène Guiliana _ 11 JUIN 1976 - CHATUZANCE LE GOUBET - Drome
UFO’s & Rock – An interview with Scottish rock band CEIV By Philip Mantle.
PM: Brian, when did you first become interested in UFO’s ? BM: I’m sure my first interest in the possibility that alien life exists dates back to the TV Sci- Fi weekly ‘Quatermass and the Pit’. I was about eight or nine years old and most of the time I was hiding behind the couch. The storyline was believable and the music extremely scary. I must have guessed then how important music was in creating an atmosphere for a particular film. I was always interested in astronomy from an early age and soon got to know about the constellations and where to find them in the night sky. Over the years I got used to viewing various aircraft, satellites, etc and more recently, spotting the space lab/station. I fully understood the abundance and pollution of man made objects in the night sky but nevertheless still noted that there were strange objects up there performing even stranger manoeuvres. During the early 70s I began to hunt the night sky for these objects and admittedly lost a bit of interest in astronomy itself. I began to take note of newspaper reports on UFOs and I read a couple of books on the subject. I was wondering if others were seeing what I was seeing and I was surprised to learn that many were viewing similar objects and these sightings were worldwide. I became even more convinced when hearing of a report of an incident in the grounds of a local hospital. Two witnesses viewed a craft above the hospital theatres and movement on the ground nearby. More details regarding this case will be made available on our website soon. That winter I became very interested in the possibility of the existence of UFOs and the realisation that they were not just small objects in the distant night sky. I was now hooked on the probability that these objects were a reality and were on the Earth. PM: Not only are you interested in UFO’s but I believe you’ve also had your own sighting, could you tell us a bit more about that ?
BM: Our big sighting was
definitely July 1985. It was a warm summer evening and we were leaving a band
member’s house. We had phoned a taxi and as it would take a half hour or so, we
decided to do a bit of sky watching in his back garden. The sighting began with a small fuzzy amber coloured ball, not much brighter than a normal star, nevertheless it was very obvious. Three of us watched as the amber ball got bigger and closer to our position. We were at a high point in the north of Glasgow and could view the city lights and main buildings below us to the south. The fuzzy ball was now becoming a distinct saucer shape. It was getting lower as it passed over us heading south across the city. We used binoculars as we traced its flight. “Unbelievable”, “fabulous”, “fantastic” were some of the words I could hear in the background. The motion was slow skipping as it moved along its trajectory; we could see the underside then the topside. This must have lasted 20 to 30 seconds. The amber colour was beautiful and reminded me of a hot poker cooling as it is pulled from a fire. Another band member said he thought it was transparent. We traced its path as far as we could and later estimated that it would have been close to the ground near the Fenwick Moor, about 20 miles south of Glasgow. The hours and hours we had spent sky watching had paid off at last, strangely enough while simply waiting for a taxi. We will never forget this sighting. The binoculars had taken us within metres of this unmistakable, unforgettable object. The full story of this experience will be posted on our website soon. PM: So when was CEIV formed ? BM: C E IV was formed in the cold winter months of 83/84. Photo à droite : Brian snr,Jenny Randles & Brian jnr In the late 70s and early 80s I would watch the night skies as often as possible. My son Brian would join me and became interested in astronomy and also the strange objects that appeared from time to time. In 1983 Brian jnr joined the school band choosing the drums as his instrument. He enjoyed this, took it quite serious and soon became proficient. During the autumn of 83, my nephew and a friend of his wanted to start a rock band. He played the bass and his friend played keyboards. Since I had been in a band in the 60s they asked could I help out. I thought this funny as the age difference was quite a bit, but they convinced me I should join. I agreed but would only help out on practice nights. I soon realised it was handy being older than them as I could ‘sign the papers’ for council officials to allow us to use an old school for practice. They agreed we could use the gym hall but the sound was terrible so we got to know the two watchmen and via a bottle of ‘Grouse’ we ended up in the headmaster’s room, radiators, carpets the lot. Brian jnr had an old suitcase full of drum parts (a snare drum, hi-hats, etc), the suitcase itself being used as the bass drum. Everyone had a basic understanding of their instrument and we were soon belting out some cover versions of songs by The Stranglers and Gary Numan.
My nephew was also into the UFO
mystery and on practice nights we would often discuss cases. We all agreed we
should attempt to write our own songs and I think ‘Starship Scrapyard’ was the
first around winter 83. Eventually we got five songs of our own and two cover
versions. Interest was high for the UFO subject within the band and our songs
began to reflect this. The band name would be C E IV after Alan Hynek’s
categorisation of UFO incidents. New equipment was purchased and the set was
polished up at pro rehearsal studios. They convinced me to stay in the band and
we got our first gig at the ‘Star Rock Club’ Glasgow in June 84. We completed
four gigs in Glasgow before heading to Warminster for a week’s holiday in
September of that year, all due of course to the contents of Arthur’s book ‘UFO
Magic in Motion’.
The skies were clear most of the time and we put in quite a bit of sky watching. We stayed at ‘The Old Cheese House’ cottage in Upton Lovell and played the odd game of darts in the local. It was well worth the visit. PM: Are all your songs UFO inspired or UFO related ? BM: Apart from ‘The Witch’ all of the songs are related in some way to UFOs. They are written with particular cases and witnesses’ experiences in mind. We meet now and again with various witnesses and get a real feel for what they are saying. On one occasion a top record company manager told us ‘If we did something other than that UFO stuff we might get somewhere’! The man obviously didn’t know us. It didn’t warrant a reply. We love the mystery of UFOs, meeting the witnesses, sky watching, attending conferences and best of all relating it all through our music. PM: What has been the reaction to your music from the UFO community ? BM: We have received a good reaction from some of the world’s top UFO researchers and many have become close friends with the band and their families. We got some great reviews over the years from within the UFO fraternity. I think anyone who knows us realises we are serious and it’s simply our way of highlighting this fantastic subject. We have some great memories meeting up at conferences and visiting our friends within Ufology. It’s usually during these visits that we also get to meet speakers on close terms and this opens up a whole new world for us. I will take this opportunity to say thanks on behalf of all here at C E IV, to all the researchers worldwide who understand what we are all about and especially during our early years a special thanks to Jenny Randles, Malcolm Robinson and of course yourself Phil. PM: What has been the reaction from other musicians to your music ? BM: We have lots of friends who are musicians. We got to know some of them when we had our own rehearsal studio in Glasgow; others are old friends from back in the beginning, or bands we performed alongside at various venues. Although not necessarily into UFOs they certainly appreciate what we are doing and enjoy the music. When we perform in the Glasgow area you will see them in the crowd. We attend their gigs when possible. One or two have made it to the top and all the best to them! PM: Are any of your songs based on specific UFO events ? BM: Most of the songs we write are based on events within Ufology. Some are obvious like ‘Warminster Night’ others are written through influences like ‘Without Consent’ after reading the book by Carl Nagaitis and Philip Mantle. Another example would be ‘They Don’t Believe You’ - this was aimed at the true witness who finds it difficult to be taken seriously. ‘C E IV’ is more or less talking about what we are doing and ‘New Gods’ is hitting at a possible reason why we are being visited by extraterrestrials.
PM: A question I’m sure you’ve been asked before but do you have a favourite out of all of those you’ve written ? BM: It’s a tough question. A quick answer would have to be ‘Small Town’. I enjoyed doing the lyrics for this one, like a 50s Sci-Fi movie in song, if you see what I mean! PM: Do CEIV have any new material in the pipeline ? BM: We have loads of new material; it usually lies dormant scribbled in notebooks etc. Ideas are always coming in and sometimes we roughly record what we would consider ‘interesting’. I write via the guitar and Brian jnr prefers using the keyboard, we share the lyrics. Problem is with us not being fully professional we have to put the band on the back burner now and then. ‘Gabriel’s View’ is an example of this. The storyline is fantastic and was born out of a visit to NW Scotland. Arrangements and recording have started though and we are happy with results. Sorry to our fans for the delay but I’m positive this will be well worth the wait. We are critical of our work and more so with this one! PM: Is there any chance of seeing CEIV performing live again ? BM: Performing live is where the buzz is, any band will tell you this. Just recently we have had a new lease of life. This came about due to me logging all the bands material collected over the years, travels, letters, fan mail, photographs, etc. Even Gabriel and Brutus (alien mannequins) are getting a dust down. Brian jnr is working at the new website and in between we are both pushing the recording of ‘Gabriel’s View’ but performing live is always on our minds.
PM: If anyone is interested in getting hold of copies of your CD’s how can they do that ? BM: To purchase any of our music visit our website at: www.ceiv.co.uk – where you can also have a listen. All our material is available to buy on CD, or as high quality MP3 digital downloads through a secure PayPal ordering facility. Alternatively, contact us by e-mail for other ordering and payment methods. Thanks Phil and all the best from CEIV. END OF INTERVIEW If you are looking for something a little different for a UFO conference then I would recommend CEIV to keep your guests entertained in the evening. However, if you are into UFOs and rock music then CEIV might just be right up your street. There 3 CD’s Abduction, Visions and One Dream are all excellent and are quite unique I can assure you. Why not give them a try ?
Photo 1: CD ET MP3 - Photo 2 : Brian snr,Jenny Randles & Brian jnr - Photo 3 : Brian snr - Photo 4 : Brian jnr - Photo 5 : Brian jnr
Nous tenons à remercier ici Philip Mantle pour nous avoir communiqué cette interview et l'iconographie qui l'accompagne. DES NOUVELLES DU BRÉSIL
Texte original, traduit par
Emmanuel Correia Paranhos. Ufo Bahia PRESSE - Après une période de calme relatif, la série ufológica Bahia a été ébranlée au cours des derniers mois par une série d'observations. Au cours de plusieurs semaines entre Mars et avril de cette année, les observations ont eu lieu principalement dans le sud-ouest de la municipalité Maiquinique en l'état, à quelques kilomètres de monnaie au Minas Gerais, en agitant que ville tranquille.
Texte traduit et communiqué par Emmanuel Correia Paranhos - UFO BAHIA Brésil. Appletreewick Revisted! Nigel Mortimer - 1st May, 2008 In the heady days of the 1980’s there were a number of ‘classic’ UFO photographic cases reported to the group I represented then, Connect UFO Investigations in West Yorkshire, England. One of these, although extensively investigated at the time by myself and others from the IUN (Independent UFO Investigations Network), has lain away from public scrutiny for the past two decades. The photograph itself is an amazing example of the kind of phenomena that frequents the north of the country to this day, but behind it, there lies a bizarre and even stranger story.
I am writing this on May Day 2008, shortly before the anniversary of the day ( May 30th) when the photograph was taken at the North Yorkshire village of Appletreewick in 1983. The location is steeped in myths and folklore. The tradition of Morris Dancing goes back to pagan routes and celebrates the phallic pro-creational worship of the nature gods from ancient times. Although mainly for entertainment these days, groups of men dancing around a pole on this specific day of the year, reflects a recognition of early man’s communion with nature and energies that we are yet to fully understand.
The Craven Arms public House was owned and run by Jane in 1983, and the only significantly unusual thing about the pub at that time, was it already had a smoking ban inside the building, some twenty three years before our current government restrictions – some foresight by Jane! There had already been a spate of UFO sightings around the Appletreewick region in the weeks before the photograph was taken. I had been, myself, personally involved in one of these, which involved my family too. OBOL (Orange Balls of Light) phenomena had been reported at a camping site to the south of the pub only four days earlier –the description of these UFOs reported as some similar to that which appeared in the photograph later in the week.
Close Encounter in Addingham
In March of 1983, a very strange occurance took place in the Mortimer household! It was now mid-morning, the following day from an uneasy night out investigating at the newly re-discovered Backstone Circle on Ilkley Moor; to the south of Appletreewick. I had been sleeping in bed for several hours, and upon wakening, I heard the voice of Susan (my wife at the time) as she left the house to go out shopping. Closing the garden gate, I heard her speaking. I heard another voice; this one excited and at the same time, somewhat adjatated. In urgent conversation, I heard Mr. Sparcer of Green Lane say, " My mother was woken up in the early hours of this morning at about 3.30am, after hearing a loud droning noise....did you hear it too?” He continued, “I got up myself to see what all the commotion was, and I couldn't believe what I was looking at! It was a large oval object with loads of smaller lights that gave-off a strange orangey- red glow which flooded down onto your rooftop. It was no aircraft I've ever seen before, I'm sure of that..." He went on, " whatever it was, it moved away as soon as I looked at it, towards Beamsley Beacon, (north-west of Addingham) and suddenly there was no sound coming from it. All was very quiet indeed." Seemingly, this was the same OBOL that I had observed on my way down from the moors earlier that morning, but what was it now doing over my very rooftop? My wife listened with half-interest, quickly making her excuse to catch the bus, and obviously putting any talk of UFOs and such things to the back of her mind for the rest of the day, probably the safest place for such things in an uncertain mind? No, she would wait until later, when she could talk to me about it and try to rationalise an answer to this madness. By then, our children would be safe in bed and out of earshot; Susan not wanting them to be worried that ET had paid a visit to the Mortimer household! But, the two children were holding secrets of their own, and both Susan and I had no idea just how involved they were already in what had occurred whilst I had been out at Backstone Circle. Sara, then our five year old daughter awoke from her sleep a little earlier at 3.15am, she opened her eyes and jumped with a start! Looking through the half-opened bedroom door, she found it difficult to keep her eyes open, as if she was being forced to slip back into slumber? Raising her hand to cover her face and peeping through protective fingers, Sara stared at the ghostly humanoid figure that was ascending the stairs, reaching the top, and then vanishing into thin air! The heavy sleepiness finally overcame her, and she gave in. Susan returned home and we all had tea together. The children kept quiet, and Sara was as normal as ever. For the children's sake, we had decided to put the whole experience behind us, for it seemed that this thing was becoming too close for comfort, and the last thing I wanted, was to impose my 'obsession with UFOs' onto the innocence of her youth. This was made difficult, in that the local press had run a front-page piece describing reports of the UFO being seen by a number of other people up and down the Wharfe Valley around the time of our own experiences. One of these had been seen within fifteen minutes of my own sighting of an OBOL as I came down off the moor. It seemed to have been the same object I had seen, and no matter how we tried to turn away from it, the family found itself the focus of something which became increasingly intrusive! The following night at about 1900hrs, Sara was back in her bed again. As if to play out some kind of repeat sequence, events began to unfold once more, and silently, the darkened figure appeared at the top of the stairs a second time, less than nine feet from her bedroom. Expecting it to vanish as before, she fought with her senses as the form floated just above the floor towards her, getting closer, close enough to see that this entity was a female! Now, she got the impression that the first had been a male, due to the stern looking features compared to this more elegant apparition. Both had been wearing what she took to be a tight-fitting, black, one-piece diving suit, a cowled hood over the head and the whole of the face exposed.
Others have described something similar, some witnesses are very frightened, yet others feel secure -inwardly knowing that whatever they are gazing upon, it seems to mean them no harm. These feelings are very apparent during the experience and throughout the observation, as if the witness is meant to acknowledge them and take note of how they are feeling. Many reports indicate that in particular with OBOL sightings, there is this strange, almost personal interaction, something that would suggest that rather than the UFO being an object, it acts and causes a reaction we would associate with an encounter with another person! In 1981, around the Wharfe Valley region, not many miles from where the late David Barclay (author of UFOs –The final Answer) had his encounter with an OBOL, another witness to this phenomenon, Steve Hart, was travelling home on public transport. Close to Addingham, he noticed hanging in the sky over the local moorlands , a large orange ball of light. Suddenly, as he watched it, an intense feeling of sorrow and dread overcame him which lasted as long as he had the object in sight. When Steve later arrived home in Leeds, he was devastated to learn that his grandmother had passed away. She had died at the same time that he had been watching the OBOL so the encounter that Steve Hart had, and its associate 'coincidence' of his grandmothers death at the time of the experience, is puzzling. What is even more amazing is that this very same thing happened again, at almost the same location, and this time the OBOL was caught on film! The end of 1983 became increasingly difficult for all of the family. We knew that we shared something, an awareness of things that should not take place, so we tried to ignore this, but it just would not go away. Sara and her brother Ben, were seeing figures in the house that would mimic the looks, and movements of Susan and myself; on one occasion Sara watched as one impersonator of her mother, dressed exactly the same, walked right through a wall unit in the living room, while Susan was busy working upstairs! We all felt that we were being watched, even when there was nobody physically there! The pressure became too much. My involvement was effecting my working life, and everyday chores became pointless to me –there was something bigger behind all this. Connect investigations was born through a desperation to find out just what was going on! Within months, I received through the post, the Appletreewick photograph……
Investigating Appletreewick
A crowd had gathered outside the pub to watch, as the Leeds based Morris Dancers began to entertain at 2.30pm. Jane brought her camera with her to film the dancers, and ‘sensed’ that something had moved across the viewfinder with a rapid motion, but to her eye, nothing was seen apart from the dancing Morris men. She felt a sudden ‘vaccum’ like displaced air around her, only for a second, then everything was as normal. It seemed that nobody else had noticed this, and the dancers continued without any break. When Jane had the photograph developed, she was amazed to see something unusual to the left of the dancing group, which looked to be a large orange coloured ball of light. The West Yorkshire UFO Research Group (as part of Connect) conducted an investigation later that year into this photographic case, involving Kodak. After an extensive study, they proclaimed that 'whatever the object was, it was there when the photograph had been taken. You can see branches from the tree in the foreground, yet the OBOL covers part of the hillside behind it. Interestingly, directly below its position, investigators found the site of an ancient well. Above this position, the branches of the tree had been damaged by heat, and vegetation growth around the well looked to be ‘feeble’ compared to the same some meters away from where the phenomena had been photographed. I have found that this OBOL phenomena seems to be linked with the many ancient sites (mainly megalithic) that abound the moorlands in the Appletreewick region and none more-so than at Ilkley Moor, and I propose that these places, stone circles, ancient wells, etc, hold a key to how such phenomena manifest in our reality.
A death in the Afternoon
Later that day, Simon Grey (pseudonym), the Morris dancer seen below the OBOL, headed home to Leeds. In a re-run of Steve Hart's experience, he too found bad news awaiting him there. He learnt that at the very same time the photograph had been taken, his brother had suddenly died of a heart attack! It would seem that these OBOLs are aware of our human affairs. Maybe they know what is about to happen and have the ability to tune-in to our human feelings? Was this pure coincidence or is something else happening here?
Whatever these OBOLs are, they seem to have an impact on our lives. I know this from personal experience. Many people who encounter such, become different in ways not expected. They change, and through that process, often become more aware of other possibilities. They begin to question life and their purpose. I feel that this change is intended, and whatever the truth behind the OBOLs, the facts behind the Appletreewick photograph seem to be far more stranger than what is actually depicted in the picture itself?
Nigel Mortimer - May 2008 WEBSITE: www.return.to/IlkleyMoor Email: sharlek@blueyonder.co.uk
Please note: Appletreewick Photograph is copyright Connect NM 1994. Permission granted to reproduce for UFO DATA only. Reproduction autorisée par UFO DATA Mme A. Une dame pour qui les spectacles du ciel sont souvent ceux d’une autre dimension ? La dame de Suresnes
Une drôle de dame, sans nul doute. Avec son époux, ces personnes modestes habitent un appartement dans un quartier calme de Suresnes, non loin du Théâtre Jean Vilar, aux abords d’un groupe scolaire. Apparemment, depuis très longtemps, cette dame a des perceptions très étranges, qu’elle note immédiatement. Dessins et commentaires précis sont consignés sur des feuilles volantes au format 21X29,7. La plupart de ces dessins forment la matière de ce « rapport ». On voudra bien pardonner quelques fautes d’orthographe non corrigées. ( Les dessins illustrant le début des témoignages ci-dessous ont été exécutés le plus fidèlement possible, d’après les croquis du témoin, lorsque ceux-ci n’ont pas pu être scannés ).
L’ensemble de ce document a été relu, corrigé, et la présente version approuvée, par le témoin, ainsi que son époux, pour ce qui le concerne. Rédaction, présentation, par G. Deforges.
« Dès l’âge de 8 ans, je fis un rêve , dont je me souviens encore…. : des êtres atterrissaient sur les toits des immeubles, ou des maisons. Ils étaient comme des nains. Je leur disais : « saute par la fenêtre, tu ne vas pas te faire du mal ». « Dès l’âge de 8 ans, je fis un rêve , dont je me souviens encore…. : des êtres atterrissaient sur les toits des immeubles, ou des maisons. Ils étaient comme des nains. Je leur disais : « saute par la fenêtre, tu ne vas pas te faire du mal ». « Alors que je me trouvais en colonie de vacances, à Châlons sur Saône, mon regard fut attiré par une forte lumière qui se manifesta dans le ciel. Mon regard fut attiré par cette chose, alors que le rideau de la fenêtre du dortoir où je me trouvais était à moitié tiré. J’avais 7 ou 8 ans. Je n’ai pas de souvenir très précis là-dessus, mais je sais que, depuis toujours, depuis que je m’interroge sur les choses de l’existence, j’ai toujours su qu’on n’était pas seul dans l’univers. Mes premières lectures sur ce sujet datent de 1976. Ce premier livre m’a marquée : « Les OVNIS et les extraterrestres », de Yves Naud, ( Ed. Famot). »
« Ma deuxième expérience se situe alors que je demeure au 17, avenue J.Jaurès, à Suresnes. Nous sommes alors en 1981.C’est tout près du croisement avec l’avenue D. Vaillant, face au bassin, en face il y a la statue. Assez haut dans le ciel, je vois un objet ayant cette forme précise » :
« Cet objet se tient immobile pendant une dizaine de secondes. Nous sommes en début d’après-midi. Tout à coup, l’objet exécute un écart à droite, puis à gauche., puis bascule, pointe en l’air, prenant la forme d’un fuselage d’avion, sans ses ailes, puis monte tout droit dans un nuage. Il disparaît complètement à ma vue. » Couleur : Vert pâle, uniforme. Description par le témoin : « Donc nous sommes à Suresnes. « Dans la journée. Ciel légèrement nuageux. Phénomène vu à l’œil nu, puis observé à la jumelle depuis le balcon de notre ancien logement. L’objet, ( voir représentation ci-dessous), me semble très éloigné et à très haute altitude. Il m’apparaît comme étant au-dessus de Paris. Cet objet est d’aspect rectangulaire. A bout de bras, il a la taille de la moitié d’un ticket de métro. Il est immobile pendant un quart d’heure à trente minutes. Il est de couleur vert pâle. Puis cet objet va se déplacer horizontalement sur sa gauche, revenant ensuite à sa position initiale, mais en changeant de forme. Il a maintenant l’aspect d’une ogive, d’une fusée, dont les cônes opposés ont une forme légèrement concave. Il est devenu une espèce de fusée blanche, légèrement lumineuse, et a démarré une montée vers le ciel à une vitesse fantastique, atteignant un nuage dans lequel elle disparaît. Il y a à ce moment un effet d’une brillance argentée. »
« Aux alentours de cette observation, ( avant ou après, je ne m’en souviens plus), pendant quelques petites minutes, j’ai ressenti comme si mon cerveau « se vidait ». Plus aucune pensée d’aucune sorte. Je n’avais jamais éprouvé cela. » Premier juin 1986
Vue du Mont Valérien, vers Suresnes.- ( Ce témoignage est confirmé par le mari de la dame. Il me certifie qu’il a partagé cette observation, en tous points.)
« Une boule rouge, stationnaire pendant deux ou trois minutes. Puis se déplaçant vers la droite et diminuant très vite de taille pour ne plus devenir qu’un point à l’horizon. Nous avons un instant supposé que cette lumière émanait d’une grue de chantier, devant nous. Mais l’altitude de cette lumière, son intensité, étaient telles que nous avons bien vu que cela n’avait rien à voir avec les grues. Cela a été encore plus évident lorsque nous avons vu cette lumière s’élever, s’éloigner en diminuant d’intensité. »
1990, le 8 septembre. - Vers 23h. Ciel étoilé. - (Voir le dessin ci-dessous).
Objet 1 :
Intérieur des ailes rempli d’un scintillement innombrable de petites lumières jaune-pâle, cela dans chaque aile. Cette aile double est animée d’un balancement alternatif, gauche-droite. Sa vitesse est celle d’un avion de ligne. Elle se dirige d’est en ouest.
Objet 2. Celui-là suit l’aile double. Aucun bruit. Voir le dessin ci-dessous, réalisé par le témoin.
1990, le 11 septembre. 1 H du matin. Ciel complètement étoilé. Représentation par le témoin , depuis une fenêtre de son appartement, à Suresnes.
1991, le 8 septembre. Ciel nocturne sans nuage. Représentation par le témoin :
Nous sommes maintenant en 1992. Une nouvelle observation., alors que le témoin attendait la venue de ses parents. Cette vision se concrétise un peu à l’est du site du théâtre J.Vilard.
Dés 1993, Mme. A. est le témoin d’une nouvelle observation. Chaque fois qu’il en est ainsi, elle se précipite sur ses crayons pour représenter ce qu’elle a vu. Cela contribue aussi à évacuer le stress que ces apparitions provoquent en elle. Voici cette nouvelle observation . Le témoin tient à me préciser quelque chose d’important pour elle, qui l’a beaucoup frappée : cette « boule » très lumineuse est animée d’une espèce de pulsation, et dans les phases de diminution, elle devient d’un « blanc neutre », comme si elle se « pompait » de l’énergie lumineuse.
Est-ce terminé pour autant ? Pas du tout, voici la suite…. C’était donc, ici, le 26 juin 1994, la nuit. Le témoin observe, depuis la fenêtre de sa bibliothèque, le mouvement parfaitement synchrone de toutes ces boules qui se dirigent vers le nord, à une vitesse qu’elle juge supérieure à celle d’un avion.
Et les témoignages se succèdent, les représentations sont toujours aussi saisissantes.
« Forme indéterminée, vaguement ronde, mais très épaisse »
Le témoin me précise que dans la vision ci-dessous, elle est vraiment impressionnée par la couleur cuivrée des objets, comme s’ils « étaient surchauffés »
« Ma surprise a été de deux ordres : 1/-Cet objet filant dans le ciel, devant moi, très haut, avec aucun empennage de queue visible, 2/- Absolument aucun bruit.
Ci-dessous : « Je voyais une boule lumineuse, qui éjectait des petites billes lumineuses elles aussi, qui gerbaient en étincelles. La deuxième gerbait en étincelles plus petites que pour le premier objet ».
« Là, je me souviens très bien que j’étais en train de cuire des pâtes, lorsque mon regard s’est porté vers cet endroit du ciel ».
Voir page suivante deux documents rassemblés, concernant le même témoignage. La présente relation est accompagnée de deux enregistrements audio. Ils seront bientôt ajoutés à cette relation. Ces enregistrements ont été effectués au cours de la deuxième semaine du mois d’avril 2008, à l’aide d’un petit enregistreur numérique de bonne sensibilité. Cet enregistrement a été réalisé lors du travail final de mise au point du présent document, sa relecture, en présence des deux époux, et leur acceptation de cette présentation. Je pense que les documents audio intéresseront aussi bien que la présente relation. Pour ce qui concerne les documents audio, je compte approfondir l’enquête, qui fera si nécessaire l’objet d’un complément écrit.
Cette scène a particulièrement frappé le témoin. Bien comprendre : les lumières ainsi alignées avancent vers l’immeuble alors que se dirige vers elles une masse nuageuse épaisse, qui absorbera les lumières….
Date 2 octobre 2005
Voir Ci-dessous :
Et puis il y a eu aussi ce spectacle incroyable, juste au retour de mes vacances. C’était le mercredi 5 septembre 2007. De chez moi, j’ai vu un hélicoptère, ( il en passe souvent à cet endroit assez rapproché de chez nous, il s’agit à mon avis d’un couloir aérien régulier pour ces aéronefs ). Mais là, c’était donc vers 23 H, ce qui m’a intriguée, c’est que, au bruit, je me suis bien rendue compte qu’il faisait une grande trajectoire autour des immeubles. J’ai l’ai vu alors qu’il allait quitter mon champ de vision : j’ai bien vu l’hélicoptère bien éclairé, il avait son puissant projecteur devant, qui éclairait une masse sombre qui était devant lui, et qui se dirigeait dans le même sens, à la même vitesse…Cette masse sombre était très rapprochée de l’hélicoptère….
A la mémoire de Sir Arthur Charles Clarke qui est décédé au Sri Lanka, à 1 h 30 du matin (heure locale), ce 19 mars 2008. INTERVIEW WITH ARTHUR C. CLARKE. BY TOD MESIROW
My stay was short; 48 hours in total, only twice as long as it took me to get there. I had a day to recover from the trip and wander about, a day to interview Clarke, and then that evening it eased off again, back towards home.
Of all the people I’ve interviewed over the years, none have achieved quite the lasting impact in the way Clarke has. His conception of geosynchronous satellites to allow for instant world wide communication has had an enormous effect on modern history.
After a good night’s sleep, I woke up to a sunny morning, white fluffy clouds floating across the sky. Out my window I can see the ocean, the beach, a large government building, and the city of Colombo, the capital, stretching away to the south.
Nowhere does a nice international hotel feel more like a safe haven than in the third world, at least to someone not accustomed to third world travel. After refusing several offers of a guide, a young boy tags along, gently tossing in a fact or an idea of the next wonder to view. The city is moist; the air is moist, we’re near the equator. Everything seems to have that crumbliness as a result of all the dampness. There are trees and grass, but more than that there are half-completed, or half-destroyed, buildings next to new ones, next to tin shacks where Pepsis and Cokes are sold. People walking, on bikes, stuffed busses, three-wheeled motorized things; the normal urban jumble, all somehow decayed or decaying.
We walk by one shop and there’s a man on an overhang painting his building an ocean blue; next to his building there’s a large pile of picked over trash, right on the ground. We walk past an elephant; he’s being tended by three or four men in sarongs and bare feet. Half the feet I’ve seen here are bare. My guide, who calls himself Sri Lanka Man, tells me this elephant has killed two people and is crazy, that he belongs to a monk who has nine other elephants. The elephant’s caretakers say something to SLM, who asks me if I have any sweets, or candy. I say no; we go to a stand not far away and buy six hard candies. Unwrapping them all, SLM puts his hand out to the elephant, who is standing halfway below us, next to a pond, so that we’re looking him in the eye, and he cant’ get to us quickly with his two, long, pointy tusks. The elephant’s trunk finds the candies and sucks them up, curling back to his mouth and depositing the transitory treasure on his outstretched tongue.
We continue on to the Buddhist Temple on the lake. It’s small and wooden, and has tusks inside, on either side of a statue of Buddha in a large wooden box. I wonder what the relationship between Buddhism and elephants and their tusks is all about.
Next is the Buddhist temple where the elephant monk lives. He’s in front with another elephant, this one all covered with red cloth, with mirrors and embroidery all over it. We walk inside the temple and look at large brightly coloured statues of Buddha and other figures of the religion. I take my shoes off, unlacing the, and step gingerly around in my socks. Going in and out of temples is easier if you’re not wearing basketball shoes. There is a room filled with monks, all dressed in traditional orange sarongs with balked heads, busy eating their midday meal. Outside are the younger monks, sitting quietly in a line, eating as well. SLM shows me carvings of stone that lead into the temple. All very old, he says, carved by hand. Hundred fifty years ago people very strong. Which I guess he’s saying is in contrast to the many thin people who seem to predominate the areas we’ve visited so far.
Off to another few statues; one a sitting gold Buddha in a park where donkeys wander around; the other a large standing stone Buddha. While we’re looking at the tall standing Buddha the tour guide I first turned down pulls up in his three wheeler, and an Asian couple gets out of the back. He sees me and smiles. I gesture to SLM and say he walked along after me, and we ended up going around. Are you friends I ask. Yes he say. It’s fine. He had found his tourists for the day, so he was happy. Across the street was some large modern building; SLM couldn’t explain to me what it was; a cow-drawn cart went by, amidst the rest of the automobile traffic. A handmade, wooden car, pulled by a cow. More contrast.
We drove to Kelaniya, a 2,500 year old Buddhist temple with female monks. SLM was concerned that I understand the monks were women. The temple was large, and old. there was a Bo tree next to it, and people were walking clockwise seven times around the tree, and then approaching the statue of Buddha underneath the tree with an offering. There was a row of candles, and people would add oi, it looked like, and say a prayer.
Inside the temple the walls were covered with pictures describing Buddha’s history. A woman sat on the floor, her seven or eight-month old child lying on it’s back on a blanket. She was smiling and talking to the child. The child was calm as it looked around the dark room. In another room there was a large golden Buddha, with a sky and mountain diorama behind him.
People put their hands together, palms touching, fingers pointed upwards, and prayed, some standing, some kneeling. In another room there was another Buddha, reclining on his side, perhaps 30 or 40 feet long, behind a wall of sheer drapery.
On the way back to the city, we stopped at a cricket match I had seen on the way down. I love the remnants of colonialism that former colonies choose to retain. Sri Lanka was playing Pakistan in a test today; this was not that match, but several hotel employees had told me about the match proudly. We moved on, and I watched Sri Lanka pass by. The little three-wheeler had no doors, only a canvas roof. We passed a woman beating her clothes on the ground next to the local water tap; there were suds making the ground white. she looked pretty strong to me. We went past a metal shop, and a shirtless man was inside hammering away. Several small bicycle shops were busy with activity. All along the road people were walking, squatting in doorways, sitting on walls watching the world go by. In other parts of town, walls were high, and rimmed with barbed wire. The nice parts of town all had compounds; the poor parts had dogs running everywhere and trash piles in between open homes. A bus stopped to let people out. A man holding his daughter followed by his wife returned my smile. Further up the road a young boy in a sarong and no shirt was dumping a big bowl of water over his head. He smiled and laughed when he saw me watching, and threw some water in my direction, knowing it would never reach me.
Another stop was the National Museum. Admittance was $1.00 US. Inside were old stone carvings, drums, weapons, and jewellery. My favourite was the throne of the last King of Kandy, the ancient capital when Sri Lanka was Ceylon, that the British took with them to England when they conquered Ceylon in 1815. It was returned in 1936. More than 100 years later. The throne is covered in gold, with gems, and details of Ceylonese history. Quite regal. While we were inside the museum, the rains came. They lasted about 15 minutes, and then were gone. Earlier in the day, there was a huge circular rainbow of sorts surrounding the sun. Sri Lanka Man said Vishnu did it every so often. Whoever did it, I thought it looked pretty damn cool.
I arrived for my interview around 8AM. The house was built for the Bishop of Sri Lanka, Dr. Clarke tells me, but he died before he could occupy it. The elevator is a key feature, as Clarke has post-polio syndrome and doesn’t walk much. It’s old colonial style, large rooms with high ceilings, fans, ceramic tile floors in some rooms, wood floors in others. There’s a perfectly-kept traveler’s palm outside, that fans out one leaf at a time. It’s very hard to get it to grow that way according to my local contact.
I’m lead upstairs and find Clarke in his office, a large room with 3 walls of book cases, the fourth filled with a tv and other electronics. He sits behind his desk, and greets me with a big smile.
During the nearly 24 hours it had taken me to fly to Sri Lanka I read the official biography of Clarke; now a day later I was sitting in his house talking to him; the man who thought of satellites, who wrote “Childhood’s End,” who wrote “2001 A Space Odyssey.” Most people I don’t find as interesting.
“Listen to this,” he said, all giddy like a mischievous child. He turned his computer off, and it said “I can feel my mind going Dave,” in the voice of HAL, the murderous computer of 2001. He turned it back on; it said “I am now fully operational,” again in HAL’s voice. I’m sure he’s been doing that for years, for the countless visitors he’s welcomed, and he still thinks it’s a riot. Nice to know enthusiasm persists in some cases.
Back at the hotel, I put on my bathing suit and head down to the huge swimming pool, populated mostly by Europeans, in Sri Lanka on business. the sun sets behind palm trees over the ocean, as I lean back against the edge of the pool, talking to a Brit who’s in Sri Lanka to buy coconuts. They use parts of the coconut as padding in the mattresses of beds. He really enjoys his time in the warm sun of Sri Lanka. I feel like a world citizen, flitting here and there across our small, lovely planet, in search of stories, scenery, and sightings.
How did you come to conceive of the idea of placing satellites in geosynchronous orbit for communications?
ARTHUR C. CLARKE - Well, at the time I was walking-- at the time I was working in microwave radar, the first D.C.A. ground controlled equipment. So, you know, I was dealing with that technology. At the same time, now that the war was obviously coming to an end, we were trying to revive the British interplanetary society, which had been formed in 1933 with this crazy idea of going to the moon. So, I said, well, oh-- in what way can rockets be used to make some money to pay for spaceships, you see. [LAUGHS] So, I put the two ideas together, these rockets to launch satellites and use the satellites to act as relay stations for television and wrote it up in summer of '45 and it was published exactly 50 years ago, which I can't really believe.
What kind of impact did your paper have?
A.C.C. - I think it was influential in the long run. At the time it didn't have much of an impact. Ah, it-- the war was still on. Well, actually it was when the time it was published the atom bomb had been dropped and the meteor rocket had arrived. So, people took these ideas more seriously. It was not regarded with derision as it would have been if it had been published ten years earlier. And then of course, famous people saw it and I have reason to believe it sort of triggered the American interest in the idea of satellites.
Were you walking along the street one day and the idea hit you on the head or was it sort of a natural extension of your work?
A.C.C. - Well, I'd been thinking about space travel and all its applications, you know, for decades and, um, we space cadets of the British Interplanetary Society, we used to meet occasionally, even during the war, and lots of brainstorming sessions in what should we do to make space travel possible and I can't be absolutely sure that this wasn't really one of my colleagues' ideas, but I at least was the one who wrote it up and presented it to the public. [LAUGHS]
The impact of geosyncronous satellites has been enormous. Is that something that's gratifying to you?
A.C.C. - Yes, it's been very gratifying to me and particularly of course when people call it the Clarke Orbit, even though the idea of a satellite which is stationing over the earth is an old one, it's perfectly obvious of course, it had been obvious from the time of Newton when he formulated the laws of gravitation, such a satellite was possible. And early in the 1920's, ah, there was a book on the subject written by a gentleman by the name of Nordon, ah, which gave all the principles of space station construction, including the spinning space station rather like the one in 2001.
What was your contribution?
A.C.C. - My contribution was to point out that the solution to the problem of long distance TV was not to build hundreds of towers each [LAUGHS], you know, a few hundred miles apart, ah, or a floating towers across the Atlantic, which had been suggested, ah, but to go to a satellite orbit. And the particular one that was the best was the obviously, obviously the stationary one. Although the other satellites in lower orbits now are coming into the picture for telephony and other purposes, but for direct broadcast into the home for television, then the stationary satellite is the obvious answer.
Did it change the world?
A.C.C. - It has changed the world, I'm certain of that, but I can't claim too much credit, because if I hadn't published that paper in October '45, about ten of my friends would have done so within the year. [LAUGHS]
You were just quicker on the feed.
A.C.C. - That's right.
Why was science-fiction so appealing in the 30's? You were a rabid fan of science-fiction writing in the 30's. What was it about it that made it so much fun?
A.C.C. - Well, it appeals to people with, you know, imagination and science-fiction in various forms have been popular for a long time and of course Jules Vern is a classic and then Wells in England and there've been various other writers who-- there's a lot of science-fiction in the-- in the 19th century, most of which, except for Wells, has been forgotten. I was turned on by the early wonder stories and amazing stories in the 1930's and, ah, then by a book called the Conquest of Space, which was written by the assistant editor of Wonder Stories. That was published in, in 1931 and I'm happy to say the writer, David Lasser, is still around and still active.
Why has science fiction so precognitive?
A.C.C. - Well, we musn't overdo this, because science-fiction stories have covered almost every possibility in-- well, most impossibilities, obviously we're bound to have some pretty good direct hits as well as a lot of misses. But, that doesn't matter. Science-fiction does not attempt to predict. It extrapolates. It just says what if, not what will be, because you can never predict what will happen, particularly in, in politics and economics. You can to some extent predict in the technological sphere, um, flying, space travel, all these things, but even there we missed really badly on some things, like computers. No one imagined the incredible impact of computers, even though robot brains of various kinds had been-- my late friend, Issac Asmiov, for example, but the idea that one day every house would have a computer in every room and that one day we'd probably have computers built into our clothing, nobody ever thought of that.
The idea of an intelligent computer, an artificial intelligence like hal, do you think we'll achieve that?
A.C.C. - Oh, I don't think any question of that. I think that the people that say we will never develop, um, computer intelligence, ah, they merely prove that some biological systems don't have much intelligence.
How was it to create the scene when hal is dying in 2001?
A.C.C. - Well, I think it's Danny Curry and he deserves most of the credit for this and by the way, I'm gonna switch off my computer there and you will hear Hal say, "My mind is going." It happens every time I switch off my computer. [LAUGHS]
Was 2001 an interesting experience? You're planning what would happen if.
A.C.C. - Well, it was, ah, you know, a fascinating experience, because for many reasons. Um, I was moonlighting at Time Life where I was doing a book called Man in Space. Ah, this was in 1964 when the Apollo Program, you know, had been announced. But, ah, no one really believed we would go to the moon and, ah, still sort of had a scepticism. And also, ah, Stanley and I had to out guess what would happen, um, I believe-- this may not be true, maybe Stanley's publicity department-- he's supposed to have gone to Lloyd's, taken an insurance against Martians being discovered before the film was released. [LAUGHS] Well, ah, I don't think-- I don't know how Lloyd’s would have carried the odds on that one. [LAUGHS] So, anyway, we were writing the film, ah, before we had any close-ups of the moon's surface. So, we had to guess what it might be like and there are all sorts of problems. I-- we-- I think we did pretty well. One or two mistakes. For instance, we show the moon as more rugged then in fact it turned out to be. It turned out to be sort of smooth and sort of sandblasted.
The film had an enormous impact. I mean--
A.C.C. - Eventually, eventually, but when it came out first there was a lot of negative criticism. I can remember one M.G.M. executive saying well, that's the end of Stanley Kubrick. And so [LAUGHS]--
Describe the impact you think it had eventually.
A.C.C. - Well, it turned on a whole generation, I believe in some cases with certain chemical assistance. [LAUGHS] But, um, and it still has its impact. In fact, um, I'm always coming across references to it, sometimes indirect. A lot of t.v. commercials now. I'm sure you're-- there's one on the local t.v. It shows somebody throwing a paintbrush up into the air, some paint commercial, and the paintbrush goes up to the sounds of 2001-- And, oh, I caught an episode of the Simpsons the other day and there's a marvelous parody of a-- apes all around the, the slab [LAUGHS] Very funny.
Even today.
A.C.C. - Very much today.
Who came up with the title?
A.C.C. - That was Stanley's. I think, ah, we had a-- the private working title was, um, Journey Beyond the Stars and, um, my-- [LAUGHS] one of my private titles, which gave the idea of what we were working on one time was How the Solar System was Won. [LAUGHS] That might be a good title one day.
With the exploratory nature of it all.
A.C.C. - Very much so.
In 2001 there's the pan am shuttle that goes off and there's all the corporate things--
A.C.C. - That shows how hard it is to for-- forecast the future. The Pan Am is gone, so is the Bell System you see.
What's your favorite scene?
A.C.C. - My favorite scene from 2000 and, and 1? I'm not sure I have a favorite. Certainly one I think with the greatest impact is when he picks up that bone and [LAUGHS] because that begins human history and you reminded me that I-- we screened this once in the U.N. Building for the Secretary General and the top branch of the U.N. and I suddenly realized, ah, when that scene came on that this is what the United Nations is trying to stop, the warfare, and also that the U.N. building is safe as a slab. [LAUGHS]
I wonder if there was something subconscious.
A.C.C. - Could well be. In fact, much of it-- as you see, I did a lot of brainstorming only a few blocks from the U.N.
The model has now become a cultural icon.
A.C.C. - True, yes.
Tell me about Olaf Stapleton. Does his work effect you in any particular way?
A.C.C. - Very much and I'm happy that Stapleton is now been rediscovered after a period of obscurity. Um, his novel, if you can call it a novel, Last and First Men, which is a history of the next 2000, million years or so, all the races of man on the different planets of the solar system. Although obviously dated in many ways, it was originally in 1930, had a colossal impact on me more than any other work I can imagine and his later book Star Maker, Sirius um, these are the great classics of modern science-fiction and, um, I'm happy to say that Stapleton has now been rediscovered.
How did he affect you?
A.C.C. - Well, just the reading of that book, which-- these enormous timespans, the idea that history was just beginning and not-- history would not be a matter of near few thousands of years, not even mere-- millions, but thousands of millions and on many planets.
It was a total paradigm shift?
A.C.C. - Yes, in a way and at the same time I had discovered Wonder Stories, ah, so, you know, my mind was going, expanding like the universe. [LAUGHS]
Are science-fiction writers getting any closer to being able to predict what's coming next?
A.C.C. - Well, alas I can barely read fiction now, partly because I have so much other reading to do. Also, I think my memory banks are clogged. I can pick up a book and then a year later and I-- have I read it even? But, um, there's some brilliant science-fiction being written now, very much concerned with the, um, problems of our age. Um, I-- they used to say the 30's was a golden age of science-fiction, the old pop magazines, but I suspect that this is a platinum age.
Do you have anybody in particular that you think, that you--
A.C.C. - Ah, no, I don't mention who-- it wouldn't be fair anyway, because many of the best writers today I'm quite sure are people by whose works I haven't had time to read.
You're busy doing scientific things and writing of your own?
A.C.C. - Well, I'm, I'm not doing much writing now, I'm-- got a lot of, um, ideas which I'm written up and that I send off to my agent and he's getting other people to do the hard work.
Do you have any plans for 2001?
A.C.C. - Well, I hope to be here in 2001, but of course who knows? Um, it will be rather a busy year I'm quite sure, in many ways.
Nothing specific though that you're--
A.C.C. - No, I hope to be here in Sri Lanka, so I hope I never have to leave the island again, 'cause I love it here. My adopted family's here and [LAUGHS] and, um, I have everything I need here.
Why did you choose this place? It seems exotic.
A.C.C. - I didn't choose it. It chose me. I came here, touched base here in December, '54, on my way to the Great Barrier Reef to do my first underwater book, having gotten interested in diving, entirely because I felt there I could reproduce weightlessness, which is of course the phenomenon you experience in space. So, I took up underwater exploring, went to the Great Barrier Reef to do a book on that, touched in Columbo in one afternoon, met one of the local divers, said why don't you come back if you survive the well known sharks of the Barrier Reef and I did with my late partner, Mike Wilson, in 1956. We did a book about, um, Sri Lanka's oceans or Ceylon as it was then, and, you know, just fell in love with the country and he married a local beauty and just settled down here.
It's a lovely place.
A.C.C. - Yeah and it's too bad that's it, you know, these terrible political problems, but every country seems to have.
Is there a correlation between people who write science-fiction and a particular interest in the future?
A.C.C. - Yes, there must be, but, um, to be a science-fiction writer you must be interested in the future and you must feel that the future will be different and hopefully better than the present. Although I know that most-- that many science-fiction writings have been anti-utopias, ah, 1984, as an example. And the reason for that is it's much easier and more exciting to write about a really nasty future than a-- placid, peaceful one.
What's a precondition for being a science-fiction writer other than an interest in the future?
A.C.C. - Well, an interest-- at least an understanding of science, not necessarily a science degree but you must have a feeling for the science and its possibilities and its impossibilities, otherwise you're writing fantasy. Now, fantasy is also fine, the Lord of the Rings is still one of my favorite books, but there is a distinction, although no-- no one's ever been able to say just where the dividing lines comes. [LAUGHS]
Is it fair to call some science-fiction writers prophets in a way?
A.C.C. - Yes, but accidental prophets, because very few attempt to pr-- predict the future as they expect it will be. They may in some cases, and I've done this myself, trite about-- try to write about futures as they hope they will be, but I don't know of anyone that's ever said this is the way the future will be.
I guess the definition of a real prophet, right?
A.C.C. - Well, I don't think there is such a thing as, as a real prophet. You can never predict the future. We know why now, of course, chaos theory, which I got very interested in um, that, ah, shows you can never predict the future.
The success of science-fiction writers is because they predict everything that might happen and eventually--
A.C.C. - Well, the success of a science-fiction writer is if he can write a good read.
You've been doing that for a long time. Are there any secrets to it?
A.C.C. - I don't think there are any secrets to writing in the-- everybody has their own techniques. Um, you must be widely read, that's one thing, ah, because you have to resolve a tremendous amount of background information. Also, you should know what the competition in writing just so-- wasting your time doing the same thing. [LAUGHS] Unless you do it better, of course.
Are there any things that haven't happened yet in your writings that you feel strongly will happen?
A.C.C. - I don't think so, because I've covered a very wide spectrum of things. I'm disappointed of course that we've not gone back to the moon or even onto Mars. Ah, what I consider my best short story, “Transit of Earth,” was actually set in 1984, believe it or not. It was written quite a few years earlier. It was in 1984, there was a transit of earth. If you were on Mars then you would have seen the earth go across the face of the sun and that short story is about the only survivor of the first expedition to Mars in 1984 seeing this. It's hard to believe now, but when the Apollo mission took place, the first landing in 1969, I heard the Vice-President of the United States say now we must go on to Mars and a lot of people thought we would be doing that. There were plans to go to Mars in the 1980's.
Certainly feasible.
A.C.C. - Yeah, and then Vietnam, Watergate and a few other things happened.
Do you think that's what got us off course, was terrestrial politics?
A.C.C. - Very largely, yes, very largely.
Will we go there eventually?
A.C.C. - Yes, well, um, I'm sure that, you know, barring accidents in which now seem less likely thanks to the determination of the unlamented gold-- ah, Cold War. Um, I think we should be back on Mars by about the 2020's. And as for terraforming, well, I'm interested in this. I've done a book on the subject called Snows of Olympus, mostly generated in my computer when taking the maps of Mars as it radiates, then messaging them and putting in seas and grass and trees and clouds and atmosphere and showing what Mars might be like when we have, ah, terraformed it or transformed it. Incidentally, the word terraforming was invented by Jack Williamson and Jack Williamson, his, ah, novel, The Green Girl, ah, The Green Girl [LAUGHS] was the first science-fiction pop magazine story I ever read in 1931 or 32 and Jack is still writing.
There must be a correlation--
A.C.C. - I think as long as longevity and interest in the future and science-fiction-- obviously, I mean, if you're interested you want to go and live to see it.
Right. That's great.
A.C.C. - Feedback.
2001 was an excruciating experience though, wasn't it?
A.C.C. - No, no, it was, ah, fraught and tense and there were very few unpleasantnesses. The only problem I had was trying to persuade Stanley to reissue the book in time, because I was rather hard up. I had an expensive wife and, ah, and various other problems and, um, and Stanley just wouldn't release the manuscript. I mean, I, I can't blame him. He was desperately busy on doing the film and fighting off all the problems he must have had, you know, with the, ah, M.G.M. thing. I mean, this was a lot of nonsense, you know, and [LAUGHS] and it all came out okay in the long run and Stanley and I were always on good terms.
What was it like to see that movie the first time?
A.C.C. - You know, it's a bit of a blur, because I had to go to three successive premieres. Stanley is a very shy person and won't go anywhere, any public-- so, I had to attend the first premiere in Washington, the next night in New York, the next night in Los Angeles wearing-- so, it's really much of a blur and because I've seen it so many times in so many versions. So, I just can't focus on that very first experience.
Stanley wouldn't go to any of those, hugh?
A.C.C. - Nope. He left me to carry the can. [LAUGHS]
The book and the screenplay were written simultaneously.
A.C.C. - But, see back in both directions sometimes I wrote scenes after I'd seen them on the-- on the screen, based on the earlier version.
Fascinating.
A.C.C. - I've written another book called The Lost Worlds of 2001, about the alternative story lines we might have developed.
I was always a space child. When I saw that movie, it forever transformed the vision of the possible future for me and I think for lots of people.
A.C.C. - [LAUGHS] Incidentally, I came across a review the other day, it's 25-- 25th anniversary of the movie, somebody said, um, 2001 was so far ahead of its time and it's still the same pretentious nonsense it was 25 years ago. [LAUGHS]
To you, what was the impact?
A.C.C. - Well, I guess it legitimized it, particularly on people who looked down on science-fiction, you know, the, ah, archetypes, the intelligentsia. You know, my definition of the intelligentsia, someone who's educated beyond their intelligence.
What affect did it have?
A.C.C. - Well, it made it respectable and, ah, and respected and it opened up lots of gates in many ways, because-- now incidentally, um, there had been quite a few space movies before, Destination Moon, the Day the Earth Stood Still, and some of them were quite good in the context of the time, but 2001 killed the space movie dead for about a decade, until the technology had caught up and then of course we had Star Wars, and Close Encounters--
What is Project Phoenix?
A.C.C. - Well, there arose from the ashes of the Origin NASA project, which millions of dollars had been spent getting all this equipment ready to start a ten year search for intelligent messages from space. All the equipment was there, all the work had been done, the scientists were ready, and then suddenly Congress decided it was a waste of money. I think one man was responsible. His, ah, name should be written in letters of lead, but the people also voted for-- I mean, all that re-- all that money was wasted on what is the most important project of the human race, you know, could possibly get involved in. Are we alone in the universe? Well, luckily the money will not be wasted now, because private enterprise and a lot of people like, um, Bill Hewit and Eckart and many others, ah, put a great deal of money in it and now it's continuing on private funding in Australia.
What are they looking for?
A.C.C. - Well, the idea is this, that if there are other intelligent species in the universe, and practically everyone assumes that this must be the case, some of them are probably broadcasting on the-- on radio waves as we are and perhaps the deliberate intention of saying hi, we're here folks, anybody else out there? Well, unless we listen we probably can-- we'll never have a chance of finding this is true. So, that is we should have a continuing search on possible frequencies and maybe towards the stars like our sun and just listen. Now, it may be a very time, because you know if you're searching the short waves for a station you don't know where it is, it may take a while to find it. In this case we're not only searching the radio spectrum, but we're searching the whole sphere of the sky. So, even if you've got thousands of receivers listening it might take centuries before we hear anything. On the other hand, we might get a result tomorrow.
Is there a particular strategy for the Phoenix Project?
A.C.C. - Yes. Obviously we have to avoid areas in the radio spectrum which are noisy occupied by terrestrial or natural interference and it does happen that there is one frequency, the so-called Hydrogen Line, ah, they had done in the centimeter wave lengths, which, ah, is sort of marker. Everyone in the universe knows about this particular line and one theory is they might use multiples of that line. Unfortunately, a lot of things have happened since then. First of all, satellites, [LAUGHS] communication satellites, have broadcast all over the sky now and I feel a certain guilt in [LAUGHS] in this matter, 'cause I've been very interested in the whole idea of listening out for radio signals in space.
Um, and it's getting more and more difficult because of satellite interference, particularly the new low level ones around the earth, hundreds of them maybe, all over the place so there's no way you can keep track of them and every so often any radio dish, listening out zap, zap, zap. Still, ah, that's the situation we can't do much about. We have to live with it. However, back in 1961 I pointed out the solution to this problem before it even arose. I said the quietest radio place in the solar system is on the far side of the moon. There we're shielded from all the radio racket of the earth by the whole width of the moon to, ah, 1,000 miles of solid rock. Well, ah, that now has been seriously concluded that's where the radio astronomers of the future will have to go.
Unfortunately, of course, soon after we get there the lunar colonets will have their own lunar communication satellites whizzing around. [LAUGHS]
Do we need a hubble for radio waves?
A.C.C. - Yes, um, one could build in space very large antennas, many miles across, because there's a problem building a very large dish on the earth is gravity and winds. Well, on the moon you have much lower gravity, [WORD?] and no wind. So, the moon is an ideal place for large radio telescopes, but space itself would be even better, because there's no gravity there and you can make 'em as big as you like. Also, you can move way out to the edges of the solar system. Ah, another problem is that the sun of course is radio sending out radio waves and things and, ah, there's a kind of ionosphere 'round the inner solar system which may block long-- very long waves coming in. So, we might have to go out beyond Saturn to search the really long waves. But, it's an exciting project and I can't think of anything more important.
Why is it important?
A.C.C. - Well, it seems to me any person, any intelligence, any interest in life or anything, would ask are we alone in the universe? If we're not, where are we? Are we near the apes or the angels? I think we're rather near the apes. Now, of course, a lot of people I think are opposed to the whole idea, because they're scared, particularly religious fundamentalists, because they say God made man and woman [LAUGHS] in his own image. Well, one day we find we may have to reinterpret that rather drastically. Yes, of course, um, there's been a lot of discussion of this. In fact, um, the Pope at an audience I believe of the radio astronomers not long ago and he thinks it's a good idea, this search and, ah, doesn't believe it'll be any, ah, hazard to religion. I'm not so sure.
Explain to me the hydrogen line.
A.C.C. - Well, hydrogen atoms in space, and all atoms, have their natural frequency and space is full of hydrogen gas and this natural frequency-- what is it, I can't remember the figure now, it's, ah, thousand something megaherts and, um, ah, a few centimeters wave lengths and thousand spaces permeated with this radiation. It's very feeble, very faint, ah, radiation. And, um, ah, but it is sort of mark for a milestone, if you like, in the radio spectrum.
And so it seems an obvious place?
A.C.C. - Also-- not only hydrogen, H, but OH, and make it water and they've called this a water hole, because this band between the H and the OH is a sort of place where the civilizations of the universe might meet [LAUGHS] at the water hole.
2001 was part of the idea of what would be the impact when man does discover some type of signal.
A.C.C. - There've been, of course, endless discussions of this theme, countless science-fiction novels and movies, and there've been some serious studies. In fact, one is recently been completed on the protocol, what should we do, you know, it's quite a serious, you know, fairly long detailed study, which study you should get a hold of. Ah, first of all, we've got to make sure there's no, there's no hoaxes, no premature announcement, you know, and then the other question is do we answer? Some people are scared. Well, it's too late to do anything about that. We have answered-- anything within 50 light years of earth, or whatever it is, knows we're here.
Because of all--
A.C.C. - All-- yes.
All the radio--
A.C.C. - Exactly, and I'm very scared as to what they may have decided about us and in fact, ah, recently I said, you know, all these crime series and horror movies needs to be radiating out. I'm surprised the cops aren't here.
Your planet is under arrest.
A.C.C. - Exactly.
What does it tell about ourself?
A.C.C. - Well, you know, we-- it's rather lonely if this tiny little planet among hundreds of thousands of millions of other stars and planets is the only place where there's intelligence. You know, Douglas Adams, one of his books he mentions where God went wrong. Well, I feel if this is the only [LAUGHS] place which has any life in the universe from all these infinite, almost infinite, number of thousand suns, God really has gone badly wrong. Unless, and this is interesting I thought, unless we intended eventually to take over the universe.
That's very earthocentric.
A.C.C. - Very earthocentric.
Who would they tell first?
A.C.C. - Well, ah, I think the idea is you'd go to the United Nations first of all. Ah, I can't remember the details of this protocol, because it as still very provisional, but the-- all these possibilities have been suggested. And of course there'd be some kid of press release and the interesting thing is how long would the sensation last. You know, would be a-- it depends on what it-- what the information is, you know, and what the message is. If it's from a civiliza-- if it's been 10,000 years on this way it's like taking a message from the ancient Greeks, but the ancient Egyptians, you know, so it obviously hasn't any direct impact. If it's from a civilization where only ten lights year away, then that's a very different story, because they might be here within 50 years. You know, we might be there within 50 years.
They might be saying expect us for dinner.
A.C.C. - Exactly, yes. double meaning of the word. [LAUGHS]
Where is phoenix actually looking?
A.C.C. - No, um, I'm not quite sure of the protocol, but you see a great deal of regular radio astronomy involved searching the sky, ah, looking at stars, picking up the natural radiations from the universe from which we can learn a great deal. But a search for intelligent signals can ride piggyback on this without interfering much with the astronomy program. And there've been tremendous advances in electronics too and now we have computers that can search millions of different frequencies a second and automatically log them. If they find a signal they can also search another part of the sky and check if it's coming from more than one place and-- or if it's, ah, likely to be a natural or artificial, you know, whatever-- or man-made and eliminate an awful lot of nonsense. So, in the course of a day they may only find a few hits that are worth looking into. Otherwise they'd be overwhelmed with junk.
How will you feel?
A.C.C. - Well, ah, that's the only thing I would-- I've seen so much happen in my lifetime in space, that it's greedy to expect more, but that is the one thing-- well, there's two things I'd like to see. One is the discovery of any form of life elsewhere, intelligent or not, even the mi-- even a genuine martian microbe would be something. And the other thing is of course proving intelligent life. Now, some scientists, not many, but have argued that life itself is gonna be a very rare phenomenon, because it depends on so many chance happenings. But, I think that's been refuted now.
There's some interesting counter arguments to this. Some scientists say that the chances of life arising are so rare, it depends on so many coincidences and chemical chances that we may indeed be the only life form in the universe. I don't think many people really believe that, but it could be true. Others go even further.
They say that even if life is common, intelligence itself, at least the technological intelligence, sort of civilization we have, would also depend on so many chances that that may be very rare and perhaps nonexistent. So, even if life is common we may be the only intelligence in the universe, which I find a very depressing thought. Well, these are really the most fundamental questions of philosophy and religion, science and I would like to see at least some of them answered.
What if the message was “love 2001” [laughs]?
A.C.C. - Well, you know, when the Apollo 8 astronauts came back from the first flight around the moon they told me that they'd been tempted to report they'd seen a black obelisk on the far side and I've never forgiven them for chickening out. [LAUGHS]
I mean, it's the most provoking-- I mean, you can argue either way and the only thing that'll settle it is experimental evidence. I mean, I've seen many of the great mysteries of astronomy solved in my lifetime, the canals of Mars is perhaps a classic one. When I was a boy everybody thought there might be life on Mars and-- because they thought there were canals in Mars civilization. That was not discovered, although, few people really took it seriously by the 1930's, but it wasn't disproven 'til the landing of the, you know, the Vikings got to Mars.
But this is the last great unanswered question?
A.C.C. - Exactly. The existence of life and intelligence in the universe.
Tell me about the SETI League. They're talking about a global search of backyard dishes, right?
A.C.C. - Yes, although you need a pretty big dish to have a chance of picking up any signals, ah, even a small dish the size of some, you know, some satellite receivers does have a sporting chance and if they could have maybe hundreds of thousands of people listening at different parts of the sky it would improve the odds and it would be an interesting experiment anyway. You know this is rather like amateur astronomy which has been going for a couple hundred years I suppose, on quite a large basis. There are thousands of amateur astronomers, some of them with telescopes which are almost as large as some of the smaller professional ones. And they've done very valuable work, particularly in finding the comets. See, the professional astronomers with their giant multimillion dollar instruments, can only afford the time to look at things that are really important and difficult, but an amateur who can do what he likes, ah, can fill in gaps and there's plenty of sky for everybody.
One of the anti-SETI groups maintains that if there were intelligent species out there they would have contacted us already.
A.C.C. - This is another mystery. Well, first of all I think it's quite possible that there has been contact, maybe many times, in the three billion years or so, ah, of earth's history, or prehistory. I think it's also possible there may be beacons, sentinels, as a theme of 2001, you know, just watching, waiting until we were interesting enough for them to say, ah, yes, we're here, you've graduated, you know, welcome to the club. These are all possibilities, but unless we're gonna do some more exploring, research, we won't know.
So, you think it is possible that we have been contacted?
A.C.C. - I think it's very possible and that's why I'm so angry with these idiots who keep saying we've been contacted now or I've been taken for a ride to Venus in a spaceship or all this utter nonsense.
Before we're ready there's no point in them saying hi, we're here?
A.C.C. - Yes, ah, and then the other argument is that noninterference, the prime directive from Star Trek, um, they will want to study us and see how we've developed. Um, the only thing they can learn from us is perhaps, you know, the way a history line does develop and if they interfere they spoil the experiment. This is a plausible argument. On the other hand, I, um, paint a dim view of it, because I don't believe any compassionate race that I'd want as having to do with would look at our earth and see the mess we're in now and not do anything to help us. And if they are they're just watching all our agonies I say the hell with them.
They're up there snickering.
A.C.C. - That's right, yeah.
Because phoenix is so targeted isn't there a chance that we'll miss someone or some other being?
A.C.C. - Which is one reason why we should have, you know, thousands of observers trying everything possible part of the sky and every possible frequency. It's a very long shot and it may well be that the answer lies in other directions altogether. Ah, we ourselves are going away from broadcasting radio waves to squirting them through fiberoptics. So, maybe in 100 years our civilization won't be radiating much into space, although I imagine that big radar systems will be operating for a long time. They may be the best chance of anybody succeeding, it's not our radio or t.v. positions, but the military and, ah, civil aviation microwave radar systems scanning the universe. But, um, it may well be that the use of radio waves is only during a rather short window in the lifetime of a civilization, but then they may go onto something else.
How would you convince someone?
A.C.C. - Well, first of all, the amounts involved are minuscule compared with, ah, what is wasted in other projects. I know that argument doesn't cut too much ice, ah, but, um, I think one good argument though would be the success of Apollo 13, showing the public is much more interested in space. I mean, the success of the film Apollo 13 [LAUGHS] showing the public is really very interested in space and, ah, wouldn't mind spending, you know, five cents per person per month, whatever it is to do such a investigation.
There's always people who say there's so many other problems we shouldn't be spending a dime in space, what difference is it going to make?
A.C.C. - Well, it may make all the difference. In fact, you know, in one of the arguments of searching for intelligent life in space, elsewhere, is that we have no evidence, contrary evidence, that intelligence has any survival value. Ah, I suppose the most successful creatures on this planet are part of the cockroaches. They've been around, what is it, 100 million years or so and I suspect they'll still be there 100 million years in the future. Maybe intelligence is a evolutionary aberration which dooms its possessors in the way armor may have doomed some of the dinosaurs. [LAUGHS]
If we found intelligence life elsewhere it might give us hope that we can continue to exist as a species.
A.C.C. - Finding intelligent life would encourage us and also of course the opportunity of learning, you know, a tremendous amount, but this again is a danger. We might be so overwhelmed with knowledge and information, ah, that we might, you know, be depressed and even become suicidal because, you know, say what's the point if they've-- thousands of years ahead of us why should we bother and become the ultimate couch potatoes. [LAUGHS]
Galactic couch potatoes.
A.C.C. - Absolutely, yeah.
Just please come and take care of us is what we'll say.
A.C.C. - We'll pipe into the Galactic Internet and that's the end. [LAUGHS]
What would you send back?
A.C.C. - Well, this again is something which has been discussed in this protocol and it would also depend on how far away they were. If we could deduce how far the signal had been traveling, how many years it'd been on its way, if it's from the immediate neighborhood then the problem is important.
Um, do we send pictures, ah, of what we like? Carl Seagan, has pioneered this, the disc showing, you know, human beings and the various symbols of nuc-- ah, atoms and so forth. I think the temptation to send something like that and, ah, maybe some of our music would be important.
The huge paradigm shift in childhood's end placed earth in the solar system, in the galaxy, in the universe and showed me the potential of enormity of time scale. Why is that such a powerful idea?
A.C.C. - Well, because I think any intelligent person must wonder where we are in the scheme of things. That's what the question is. And yet, you know, some apparently quite intelligent people just aren't interested. The classic example is Sherlock Holmes. He had a discussion of astronomy with Watson and Sherlock said what does it matter? There's no practical concern at all. Well, he was wrong of course. Astronomy's now of great practical concern with satellites and so forth.
What would you send back? Help?
A.C.C. - Help is the obvious one, but of course you take some time for the help to arrive. No, I think we should them, you know, um, our pictures showing what the earth is like and in fact, um, there's a C.D. Rom showing a lot of pictures, which, ah, had been sent, you know, on the various space probes.
A.C.C. - Yes, uh, contact with extra terrestrials would be the turning point in history, to discover that we're no, no long alone. I can't imagine anything more important.
Nos remerciments a Philips Mantel pour nous avoir communiqué ce document pour publication. UFO Crash in North Texas, 1891 Mark Murphy and Noe Torres ©2008, Beyond Boundaries, Inc., www.beyondboundaries.org Document publié avec l'accord de Philips Mantel When dozens of people in Erath County, Texas spotted a half mile-long UFO in the skies above them in January 2008, a couple of area residents turned to local history books for clues about what happened. Located 80 miles southwest of Fort Worth, the neighboring towns of Stephenville and Dublin lie in the very midst of what has been, historically, a hotbed for UFO activity. In fact, it has recently come to light that 56 years before the famous Roswell, New Mexico UFO crash of 1947, the tiny town of Dublin was the site of a Roswell-like event, involving an aerial explosion of a UFO, followed by the discovery of strange debris containing mysterious, undecipherable writing. Saturday, June 13, 1891, was a quiet summer day in Dublin, which had a population of just over 2,000 people. One of town’s major industries, the Wasson & Miller flour mill and cotton gin, had already wound down operations for the week. As evening came, a number of local residents were outdoors near the gin, walking and otherwise enjoying the leisurely summer weekend. Among the persons in the vicinity, the Dublin newspaper later reported, was an unnamed “gentleman” who witnessed an event like few others in the history of human affairs.
Front page of Dublin Progress, June 20, 1891 The unidentified man, described by the newspaper as a generally trustworthy witness, observed a bright, oblong-shaped object hovering about 300 feet in the sky above the gin. Although referred to as a “meteor,” the UFO’s strange behavior suggested that it was something entirely different. Struggling to describe the strange object in the terminology of an era before air travel, the witness stated that it looked like “a bale of cotton suspended in the air after having been saturated in kerosene oil and ignited, except that it created a much brighter light, almost dazzling those who perceived it.” While the general appearance was like a cotton bale, the observer gave no indication of the dimensions or overall size of the object. Apparently, he was so frightened by the UFO that he hastily withdrew from the scene before making any sort of guess at the object’s dimensions. Especially striking about this account is the extreme intensity of light that emanated from the UFO. A kerosene-sparked flame would certainly not be bright enough to be said to “dazzle” viewers who stood several hundred feet away. This object, hovering in the sky above Dublin, exhibited a “much brighter light” than a conventional fire. The intense light may have been a sign that the air vehicle was in some kind of distress. Perhaps a fire had broken out on board the craft or something had caused it to overheat and build toward an explosion. The observer noted that the dazzling object remained in the sky for an unspecified length of time and then, with a tremendously loud sound like that of a bombshell, the UFO suddenly exploded, violently hurtling metallic fragments of a most unusual character to the ground below and burning to a crisp all the surrounding grass and vegetation. The sound of the explosion was so loud that “nearly everyone in that portion of the city” heard it, according to the newspaper. A more precise description of the object prior to the explosion is not available, we are told, because the observer was so badly frightened by what he saw that he “hastily” ran away and hid. Embarrassed by his fear and lack of scientific curiosity, he did return to the area the next day, but because of the initial instinct to flee, according to the newspaper account, “it was utterly impossible to obtain an accurate account of the dimensions and general appearance” of the UFO prior to the explosion. The eyewitness must have had a restless night’s sleep thinking about the amazing sight his eyes had beheld that evening. He was certainly still intensely curious, and early on Sunday Morning, June 14, 1891, he returned to the scene of the fiery explosion he had witnessed. What he found was perhaps even more frightening to him than the events of the night before.
Cotton Gin, Circa 1930s (Library of Congress) Strewn across a field for many yards were “fragments of the most remarkable substance ever known to explode.” Amidst the completely burned grass, weeds, and other vegetation around the area were numerous fragments of what appeared to be metal of a leaden color. In addition, there were “peculiar stones” resembling the lava fragments thrown out by volcanic eruptions. Clearly, the physical evidence lying in this debris field indicated that what exploded here was something other than a meteor. Still, the most amazing find was yet to be made. As the witness combed through the metallic and lava-like debris, he came across several small fragments of a paper-like substance with printed writing on them. They almost seemed like scraps from a newspaper, except for one important difference – the language was of a character unknown to anyone. Gazing in wonder at the strange writing, the observer became aware that “the language in both was entirely foreign to him, and, in fact, no one has yet been found who has ever seen such a language before.” Clearly, this part of the story had a deeply emotional impact on the eyewitness, as the newspaper reporter said he “worked himself up to such a pitch of excitement.” In fact, he seemed in a “bewildered fancy” as he recalled the strange debris that he saw littering the area around the Wasson & Miller flour mill and cotton gin. In a bizarre twist, the newspaper reporter asked to see the scraps with the mysterious writing on them, but the witness became so emotionally overwrought that he was unable to comply with the reporter’s request. He did not even seem to “grasp” the reporter’s desire to be allowed to see the UFO debris. Slowly over time, the excitement surrounding this amazing incident in Dublin, subsided, and the local residents went back to the harsh reality of daily life on the Texas plains. Six years went by and then another unearthly UFO crash occurred less than 100 miles away in the town of Aurora, Texas, that certainly caused Erath County residents to remember 1891. In the Aurora case, the Dallas Morning News reported, “About 6 o'clock this morning [April 19, 1897] the early risers of Aurora were astonished at the sudden appearance of the airship which has been sailing around the country. It was traveling due north and much nearer the earth than before. Evidently some of the machinery was out of order, for it was making a speed of only ten or twelve miles an hour, and gradually settling toward the earth. It sailed over the public square and when it reached the north part of town it collided with the tower of Judge Proctor's windmill and went into pieces with a terrific explosion, scattering debris over several acres of ground, wrecking the windmill and water tank and destroying the judge's flower garden. The pilot of the ship is supposed to have been the only one aboard and, while his remains were badly disfigured, enough of the original has been picked up to show that he was not an inhabitant of this world.” The Aurora UFO crash has been called the Roswell incident of Texas, and yet, one could legitimately argue that the 1891 event in Dublin is likely the oldest UFO crash event ever recorded in modern times. The Aurora event, along with the Great Texas Airship sightings of the middle 1890s, has been well documented and reported often, but the Dublin event remains very much a mystery to most UFO researchers and to the general public. Some historical facts make the believability and extraterrestrial nature of the Dublin exploding UFO very compelling, even for skeptics. At the time, people did not have concepts of unearthly beings, space craft, or even air craft. One must imagine that any type of contact or witnessing of a possible would be depicted in terms of what people of that time knew or had previously experienced. Simple folk of that time would have explained such an event in terms that they knew, floating cotton bales glowing brighter than burning kerosene or similarly. Such a report would be akin to the way Ezekiel described the biblical “wheel in the middle of a wheel” and “like burning coals of fire, and like the appearance of lamps”. This Dublin event was a full seven years before H.G. Wells had written War of the Worlds, and the first widespread depictions of alien beings visiting Earth had emerged to the general public. This event was one year prior to the earliest known version of extraterrestrials first described in The Germ Growers (1892), by Robert Potter.
1891 city map section of Dublin, TX showing crash site at W. T. Miller Flour Mill & Cotton Gin in lower left hand corner.
1896 city map section of Dublin, TX showing crash site at W. R. Wasson Flour Mill & Cotton Gin in lower left hand corner. The recent sightings near Stephenville and Dublin, Erath County, Texas, have sparked a new or renewed sense of wonder in many hearts and minds not only in the immediate area, but across the country and world. Some of the "old timers" of ufology are a bit amazed that the Erath phenomena are being taken so seriously by the routine media, whereas twenty years ago television reporters would have at least given a humorous wink with their story, if not total ridicule. The times are a changing. The Erath event in January 2008 was witnessed by many conservative Christian farmers and folks in a rural community, but also by university professors, respected business people and law enforcement officers. There are yet many more that will not go on record as witnesses because of past connotations associated with being a "UFO nut" for those with the courage to come forward. However, this latest occurrence could truly be a turning point in how the general public and mainstream science begins to perceive the possibility of extraterrestrial or extra-dimensional visitations, whatever they may turn out to be. In the minds of many nonbelievers, MUFON has proven to be a scientifically viable organization, handling the investigation in a professional manner with no bias and drawing no conclusions as to what it was. So what about the military flip flop on the recent event? It is also a bit unique for a sighting. Air Force Major Karl Lewis of the 301st Fighter Wing at Naval Air Station Joint Reserve Base in Ft. Worth essentially admitted a short-term cover up of the phenomenon. He initially said that it most likely was an illusion caused by setting sunlight reflecting off of two commercial airliners. He stated later that he should not have said anything like that. Lewis also admitted disinformation when professing that the Air Force did not have any military operations in the area at that time. He supposedly wasn't in the loop and later said that a communications error led him to not know that there were ten F-16 fighter jets over Stephenville that night. How often does the U.S. military have ten F-16s in an exercise over a populated area? Being a resident of Stephenville myself for about 25 years, I recall military jets flying over town about three or four times a year, and then only a single plane or two at the most. Nothing has been stated why the military, both large Army helicopters refueling at the municipal airport, confirmed F-14 Navy Tomcats, confirmed F-16s, a possible B-52 bomber and other military craft continued operations in the area were heavy for the week or two following the January 8th event. Major Lewis stated that it was just a military exercise in the Brownwood Military Operating Area (MOA) on that night, after his official initial denials. It can be easily noted on an FAA map that Stephenville and the area to the East toward Selden are well outside the MOA described. This is the area where, as pilot Steve Allen and others have described, F-16s were chasing an approximately 2000 foot long craft that traveled around an incredible speed of 3000 miles an hour, which stopped, turned, disappeared, then reappeared. It is quite understandable indeed how military officials could be confused and suffer communication problems in the wake of something this monstrous and dramatic. Almost half a mile long, a quarter mile wide, and traveling over Mach 4! That was one huge, fast vehicle, and “nothing of this world”, as Allen stated.
There are now other reports of Erath county sightings coming in, or being released to the public. A small, dark oval with multicolored lights traveling up the Bosque river, then hovering over a group of about twenty college students by an evening campfire occurred in March of 1982. There was absolutely no noise or wind as would be expected from even a "silent" helicopter. As the object hovered, it was not an airplane. The object accelerated at great speed up at an angle after hovering for over a minute. Another craft, exactly as described by Allen and the current witnesses, was reported to the sheriff of Erath County in 1969 by several local residents. Nothing was investigated. Other events and crafts have been spotted over the years, some relating to the many diaries in the area (Erath is the largest dairy county in Texas and seventh in the nation). Some events have been tied to Native American activities near the border with Comanche County on Erath's West side, others to the Comanche Peak nuclear plant near Glen Rose, and even more around abandoned military bases in the area. Is North Texas a hotbed of activity? If so, why? How long has this been going on? A follow-up study is being done on events passed down through the ages witnessed by members of the Comanche and Cherokee tribes in the area. Sightings are still reported from these Native Americans today. More to come on this. The event recently uncovered about the 1891 crash may be the oldest on record in modern times (read attached transcription). This craft was spotted and exploded in Dublin in 1891, a full six years before the Aurora, Texas crash and subsequent burial of an assumed ET entity. The Aurora event, along with the Texas Ships of the 1890s, has been well documented and reported often. It may be surmised by some that the Aurora incident and other sightings around 1897 are attributed to the testing of dirigibles. The Dallas Morning News reported in 1897 that Stephenville farmer C. L. McIlhany (for whom a street in town is now named) actually spoke with the pilot and engineer of one of grounded airships. Their names were S.E. Tilman and A.E. Dolbear, and they were experimenting with the dirigible for an investment group out of New York. "They are confident that they have achieved a great success and that within a short time navigation of the air will be an assured fact," said McIlhany. Between April 13 and 17, 1897, there were 38 reported sightings of "airships" in 23 counties, mostly in North Central Texas, the location of Erath County. The late 1890s were also a busy time for dirigible invention testing across Europe. The “Golden Age” of airships did not actually begin until 1900. The bicycle making Wright brothers first flew in 1903. However, the descriptions of the 1891 incident do not match any possible connection to dirigible testing, and the Dublin crash appears to never have been reported, at least on a widespread scale. The year 1891 was a busy time for Erath County. The first Dr. Pepper bottling plant was built in Dublin, Texas. Dublin had tried to become the Erath county seat, but the voter began building the courthouse in Stephenville that year alsox. The Miller grist mill and cotton gin was nine years old. Some other details of interest from the Dublin Progress story need to be elucidated. The description of “peculiar stones and pieces of metal, all of a leaden color, presenting much the appearance of the lava thrown out by volcanic eruptions” is intriguing. The slag description is similar to other crash site artifacts, such as the one in the crash near Chihuahua in 1974. Metal slag appearing to be molten and cooled aluminum was discovered. Should samples of the leaden color metal ever be obtained from the mill site (and they probably still would be around somewhere under the soil surface), they could be tested to determine elemental content, pyrolytic history, and alloy composition. The Progress witness described the craft first as a meteor and then as a cotton bale suspended in the air. It should also be noted that cotton bales in 1891 were much larger than they are today. Various sizes were used anywhere from as large as 10 x 10 x 10 feet to much smaller or larger, but usually big and bulky. A cotton compactor was patented in 1891 to make the standard bale about 55 inches by 22 inches by 33 inches and about 500 pounds known to farmers later, but this type compacter could not have been working in Dublin at that time the same year it was patented. The craft in question was probably several feet wide and long like the larger bales at the time.
Cotton Bale in Houston, Texas, Gin, 1939 (Library of Congress)
Texas cotton bales around turn of 20th century The mill in Dublin still stands intact at the crash site. The railroad and depot is no longer on the west side of the mill, but is now replaced by small livestock field and a small creek. Sackville Street on the maps attached is now called West Park Street. The Dublin museum curators say that the mill is schedule for restoration and preservation as soon as funds are obtained. Should there be any excavation of the soil around the mill, it would be a good time to get out the metal detector and look for slag or unusual artifacts. I guess I’ll dig mine out of the garage and be ready. Perhaps some wealthy benefactor might consider giving a restoration grant with first archeological rights to whatever is dug up from the area. Manuscript fragments in the strange language described would long be dissolved, but may be in someone’s attic chest around Dublin. In any case, we can all glean from these events that the area around Erath County has been a source of UFO activity for at least 117 years or more. We’ll keep our eyes on the skies around here.
Miller Grist Mill site from northern view.
Miller Grist Mill from western view by creek. ================================================= Transcription of June 20, 1891 Dublin Progress news article (page 4) METEROIC EXPLOSION A Meteor Explodes in the City—An Eye Witness Describes the Scene to a Progress Reporter—Scared. Quite a little excitement was created last Saturday night by the bursting of what is supposed by those who were present to have been a meteor, near Wasson & Miller’s gin. Quite a number witnessed the explosion and nearly everyone in that portion of the city heard the report eminating [sic] therefrom, which is said to have sounded somewhat like the report of a bomb-shell. Our informant (who, though a little nervous at times, is a gentleman who usually tells the truth, but did not give us this statement with a view to its publication) says he observed the meteor when it was more than three hundred feet in the air, before bursting, and that it bore a striking resemblance to a bale of cotton suspended in the air after having been saturated in kerosene oil and ignited, except that it created a much brighter light, almost dazzling those who percieved [sic] it. The gentleman in question seems to have been so badly frightened that it was utterly impossible to obtain an accurate account of the dimensions and general appearance of this rare phenomenon, but we are convinced from his statements that his position at the time must have been very embarrassing and that very little time was spent in scientific investigations. However, on the following morning he returned to the scene so hastily left the previous night, to find the weeds, grass, bushes and vegetation of every description for many yards around the scene of the explosion burned to a crisp, also discovering a number of peculiar stones and pieces of metal, all of a leaden color, presenting much the appearance of the lava thrown out by volcanic eruptions. He also picked up some small fragments of manuscript and a scrap, supposed to be part of a newspaper, but the language in both was entirely foreign to him, and, in fact, no one has yet been found who has ever seen such a language before, hence no information could be gained from their examination. At this juncture your reporter requested that he be shown these wonderful fragments of such a miraculous whole, but the narrator had worked himself up to such a pitch of excitement that it was impossible to get him to grasp the significance of our request, and were compelled to leave him a victim to his own bewildered fancy and to ruminate the seemingly miraculous story he had just related. Thus was a repotorial [sic] zealot denied the boon of seeing fragments of the most remarkable substance ever known to explode near Wasson & Miller’s gin. P.S. Since the above was put in type we learn that our reporter was given the above information by a contributor to the Dublin Telephone, but the information came too late to prevent its insertion in this paper.
Section of page 4, Dublin Progress, June 20, 1891. Bibliography and Acknowledgment
Special thanks to Sarah at Literary Lion in Stephenville for first alerting me to Dan Young’s historical calendar for Erath County, which contained the reference to the Dublin Progress story. Thanks also to Courtney at the Dublin Public Library for assisting me in the research and finding the location of the 1891 crash site, maps and microfilm. LA DÉSINFORMATION - LES PRESSIONS AUX USA - POLITIQUE AMERICAINE VISANT A NE PAS PARLER DES OVNI. 11 février 2008
Lettre à l'éditeur et au rédacteur en chef du Stephenville Empire-Tribune comme protestation contre la mise à la porte d'Angelia Joiner pour avoir couvert l'observation d'ovni de Stephenville.
Pour: Rochelle Stidham, éditeur, le Stephenville Empire-Tribune. Sara Vanden Berge, rédacteur de Mangaing
Chères Mesdames Stidham et Vandenberge,
RE : ANGELIA JOINER REDACTRICE DE L'EMPIRE TRIBUNE.
Je vous écris à propos de la démission/mise à la porte d'Angelia Joiner du Stephenville Empire-Tribune en raison de sa couverture de l'observation d'ovni de Stephenville. Il s'avère que l'arrêt du contrat de Mme Joiner a été déclenché suite à une demande que vous lui avez faite de cesser de couvrir l'évènement. Ceci en dépit du harcèlement dont fait l'objet l'un des témoins, Ricky Sorrells, et les contradictions dans les rapports publics de l'US Air Force concernant les vols de jets de combat dans le secteur. Mme Joiner a couvert ces évènements avec une grande intégrité dans ses articles. Votre demande à Mme Joiner de ne plus écrire davantage et de cesser ses recherches a été très peu raisonnable. Après tout, c'était une histoire qui a déclenché un intérêt international dans les médias grâce aux principaux réseaux d'informations et les débats populaires tels que le "Larry King Show" en direct. Au cœur de développements dramatiques comme l'intimidation d'un témoin et les contradictions de l'Armée de l'Air, vous avez demandé que Mme Joiner laisse simplement tomber toute autre enquête et se concentre plutôt sur les nouvelles locales ! Le Stephenville Empire-Tribune est un petit papier de ville, cependant les médias internationaux ont été motivés par l'histoire d'ovni de Stephenville apportant un impact international, et des visiteurs pour faire des enquêtes sur les observations. En outre, les ventes d'Empire-Tribune ont augmenté considérablement grâce au reportage de Mme Joiner. Dans des circonstances normales, un éditeur/rédacteur aurait été ravi et aurait encouragé ses employés à continuer à faire du bon travail. Je pense que vous avez soit complètement mal jugé l'impact de l'évènement que couvrait Mme Joiner, soit vous avez été pressurisées par de plus hautes autorités pour réduire au silence Mme Joiner.
J'ai travaillé sur la question "ovni/extraterrestres" depuis 2001 lorsque j'étais membre à temps plein du corps enseignant de l'American University's School de l'International Service à Washington DC. J'ai appris comment les médias peuvent être facilement pressurisés pour qu'ils laissent tomber les histoires sensibles concernant le sujet ovnis/vie extraterrestre, et pour qu'ils mettent à la porte les employés qui continuent à s'y intéresser. Tout ce qui se passe est un appel téléphonique de quelqu'un ayant des habilitations nationales élevées à la tête de la société de média qui relaye ensuite les instructions plus bas dans la hiérarchie. Ceci est en général fait secrètement, dans les coulisses, laissant ainsi chacun tenter de deviner ce qui s'est vraiment produit. Si ceci est arrivé à l'Empire-Tribune, alors le public mérite de savoir la vérité. Mme Joiner a effectué un service public exceptionnel grâce à son engagement objectif pendant la couverture de l'observation d'ovni de Stephenville. Elle a aidé à découvrir le harcèlement dont était l'objet un témoin principal et les arguments contradictoires employés par l'US Air Force pour éloigner toute explication. Son courageux et responsable reportage ne devrait pas mettre fin à sa carrière journalistique, et l'Empire-Tribune ne devrait pas tenter d'échapper à ses responsabilités. Actuellement, une campagne internationale est en cours pour faire prendre conscience des événements concernant la mise à la porte de Mme Joiner. (voyez : http://www.exopoliticsinstitute.org/Exopolitcs-Alert-1.htm).
Je vous demande instamment de considérer sérieusement les éléments qui ont été évoqués dans cette lettre afin de résoudre promptement les protestations qui voient le jour. Je demande humblement que vous publiiez des excuses publiques à Mme Joiner dans l'Empire-Tribune, que vous publiiez une compensation pour le dommage dont vos actions ont été la cause, et que vous cherchiez sincèrement à réintégrer Mme Joiner à son ancien poste. Je demande également à ce que vous continuiez à couvrir l'observation d'ovni avec des journalistes qualifiés et capables de faire des enquêtes sérieuses sur des évènements qui se dévoilent. Merci pour votre considération des points présentés dans cette lettre. J'attends avec intérêt d'avoir de vos nouvelles.
Michael E. Salla, Ph.D.
Dr. Michael Salla est un spécialiste internationalement reconnu en politique internationale, en résolution de conflit, en politique étrangère des USA et dans le nouveau domaine de "l'exopolitique". Il est auteur/rédacteur de cinq livres; avec une affectation universitaire à l'Ecole de Service International et le Centre pour la Paix Mondiale à l'Université Américaine, de Washington DC (1996-2004) ; au département de Science Politique à l'Université Nationale Australienne de Canberra en Australie (1994-96) ; à l'école Elliott des Affaires Internationales de l'Université George Washington à Washington DC, (2002). Il a obtenu un Doctorat en Gouvernement à l'université du Queensland en Australie, et une maîtrise en philosophie à l'université de Melbourne en Australie. Il a conduit des enquêtes et fait des travaux sur le terrain dans les conflits ethniques du Timor oriental, du Kosovo, de la Macédoine, et du Sri Lanka, et a organisé des initiatives de rétablissement de la paix impliquant des participants de niveau moyen à élevé dans ces conflits. Observation d'ovni avec des effets physiques au Brésil, 20 janvier 2008 (Riolandia, état de Sao Paulo) Chers collègues, Les tiges à ce
jour ont été pliées dans l'autre sens pour se redresser, ce qui est un
dispositif biologique normal. On a noté, cependant, que les plantes ont souffert
de vieillissement prématuré, et leurs parties pulpeuses sont devenues violettes.
Néanmoins, les plantes semblaient bonnes pour la consommation humaine. Pendant mon séjour à
l'auberge, j'ai été accompagné de deux ufologues, Gener Silva, avocat et
conseiller pour UFO magazine, et Jorge Nery, expert en matière de
télécommunications et électronique, tous les deux membres d'Instituto de
Astronomia e Pesquisas Espaciais (INAPE) (institut pour la recherche
d'astronomie et d'espace) dont l'aide significative a été cruciale pour l'étude
des données et les interviews de plusieurs témoins, non seulement pour
l'incident de Riolandia, mais pour aussi d'autres cas dans les environs.
Traduction Jacky Kozan
Par Stanton T. Friedman
Lettre ouverte au Dr. David Morrisson
Extraits du MUFON UFO JOURNAL n°477 de janvier 2008
Notre photo : Stanton Friedman
Dr. David Morrison, Scientifique Senior Institut d'Astrobiologie de la NASA Centre de Recherches d'Ames Moffett Field, CA 94035
Cher Dr. Morrison,
J'ai lu avec un considérable intérêt mais avec consternation vos commentaires récents au sujet des ovnis sur eSkeptic. (www.skeptic.com/eskeptic). Ils nous offrent un splendide exemple de la faillite intellectuelle de la pseudoscience "anti-ufologie". Il s'avère que vous, ainsi que le Dr. Michael Shermer éditeur de "Skeptic", avez assidûment suivi les quatre règles de base des debunkers de l'ufologie :
1. Ne me tracassez pas avec des faits, j'ai déjà une idée bien précise sur ce sujet, 2. Ce que le public ne sait pas, je ne lui dirai pas, 3. Si je ne peux pas attaquer les données, j'attaquerai les personnes, c'est plus facile, 4. Publiez les résultats de recherche de quelqu'un d'autre, parce que faire des enquêtes est source d'ennuis.
J'écris en tant que physicien nucléaire qui appartient à l'American Nuclear Society, l'American Physical Society et l'American Institute of Aeronautics and Astronautics. Au cours des 40 dernières années j'ai fait des conférences sur le thème "Les soucoupes volantes sont réelles" dans plus de 600 universités et plus de 100 groupes professionnels dans chacun des 50 états des USA, 9 Provinces du Canada, ainsi que dans 16 autres pays. Bref, j'ai fait mon devoir.
Assurément vous, en tant que scientifique en situation prestigieuse d'être à la charge des contribuables, vous avez l'obligation de faire votre travail avant de publier vos propos sur un forum grand public. Vous affirmez que les astronomes ne voient pas d'ovnis. Aucune source ou référence n'est donnée pour cette affirmation fausse. On aurait souhaité que vous ayez au moins étudié le travail d'autres astronomes et scientifiques pour comparer à l'information souvent incertaine disponible sur l'Internet. Je recommanderais "The UFO Experience" du Dr. J. Allen Hynek. Il était Président du Département d'Astronomie à la Northwestern University et a été pendant 20 ans le conseiller scientifique du Projet Blue Book de l'US Air Force. Non seulement il a étudié beaucoup de cas pour le Blue Book, mais il rendait aussi compte des observations d'ovnis faites par d'autres astronomes. Il y en avait beaucoup, bien que la plupart des professionnels soient très prudents envers le public, en raison du réflexe d'éviter d'être tourné en ridicule par des personnes telles que vous-même et le Dr. Shermer.
Shermer a indiqué qu'il était presque complètement ignorant en la matière quand lui et moi sommes apparus à l'émission de télévision de Larry King en juillet dernier et au cours d'une discussion de trois heures à la radio "Coast to Coast" en août. A noter par ailleurs, que Clyde Tombaugh, découvreur de Pluton, a été témoin de deux observations d'ovnis.
Allen Hynek était l'un de trois astronomes parmi les 12 scientifiques qui ont fourni des témoignages aux audits du Congrès tenus par la Commission Science et Astronautique le 29 juillet 1968. Un autre de ces scientifiques était le Professeur James E. McDonald, un Physicien Senior de l'Institut de Physique Atmosphérique de l'Université d'Arizona. Naturellement la grande majorité des observations d'ovnis sont des objets qui se déplaçent dans l'atmosphère, le Professeur McDonald opérait donc dans son domaine de spécialisation. Il a commencé comme un sceptique, étudié le Projet Blue Book, découvert un très grand nombre de cas très étranges, et s'est impliqué en interviewant plus de 500 témoins. Son témoignage auprès du Congrès comprend 71 pages dont 41 observations de haute qualité dont certaines faites par des astronomes; Je peux vous en fournir une copie.
Dr. Peter Sturrock, maintenant en retraite, était un astrophysicien à Stanford, tout près de chez vous. Il a été assez courageux pour conduire des enquêtes parmi les membres de la Section de San Francisco de l'Institut Américain d'Astronautique et d'Aéronautique et parmi ceux de la Société Américaine d'Astronomie. Naturellement, il a découvert qu'il y avait eu des observations d'ovnis faites par des astronomes et d'autres professionnels, cependant la plupart d'entre eux étaient naturellement peu disposés à les rendre publics en raison de la crainte du ridicule. Le livre de Peter est "The UFO Enigma: A New Review of the Physical Evidence". Plusieurs autres excellents livres ont été écrits par Dr. Richard Haines, maintenant retraité, qui a été longtemps un Scientifique du Centre de Recherche d'Ames.
Le livre " The UFO Experience" de Hynek décrit 746 observations inexplicables d'ovnis sur les 4500 cas qui ont été étudiés, la plupart du temps par les membres professionnels de l'ancien NICAP (National Investigations Committee on Aerial Phenomenon). Il y avait, naturellement, un certain nombre d'observations faites par des astronomes professionnels. Une mise à jour beaucoup plus importante a été éditée en 2001 et en contient encore davantage. En termes de compilations des données sérieuses concernant les ovnis, bien que n'étant pas sans défaut, je recommanderais certainement le "Project Blue Book Special Report No. 14", la plus grande étude non classifiée d'UFOs jamais faite pour l'US Air Force. Le travail a été effectué par le Battelle Memorial Institute de Columbus, Ohio. Un total de 3201 observations ont été étudiées, évaluées quant à leur qualité et classées par catégorie. Il y a 240 tables, diagrammes, graphiques et cartes. Je suis sûr que vous serez choqués d'apprendre que 21,5 % des observations ont été répertoriées comme "non identifiées", complètement séparé des 9,5% classées sous la rubrique "information insuffisante". Meilleure est la qualité du rapport, plus il est probable que ce soit un cas "non identifié". Une analyse basée sur six caractéristiques observables différentes a prouvé que la probabilité que les "non identifiées" soient des "identifiées " était de moins de 1 %. La durée de l'observation concernant les "non identifiées" était plus longue que pour les "identifiées ".
Ne soyez pas étonné de ne pas en avoir entendu parler. Moins de 2% des participants à mes conférences l'ont lu. Naturellement le Dr. Shermer ne l'a pas lu non plus. Vous affirmez qu'avec tous les astronomes amateurs qui observent le ciel, aucun d'entre eux n'a vu d'ovnis. C'est encore faux. Vous ne citez pas non plus de base pour cette affirmation.
Avez-vous cherché dans la littérature ou même sur Google ? Avez-vous enquêté dans des groupes d'astronomes amateurs ? J'en doute. Gert Herb a mené une enquête parmi les membres de la Ligue d'Astronomie et a constaté qu'environ 23,9% des astronomes amateurs avaient observé "un objet qui a résisté à la plupart de leurs efforts d'identification". 8.2% d'entre eux étaient des "observations à haute étrangeté" (Lettre de la Ligue d'Astronomie, XXVIII N° 4, d'août 1979). Avez-vous une bonne raison de croire que tous pourraient avoir été expliqués ? Environ 15% des astronomes amateurs assistant à une conférence que j'ai donnée chez Griffith Park ont admis qu'ils avaient vu un ovni.
Vous avez également affirmé, encore faussement, que les caméras de sécurité, en dépit de leur omni présence, n'ont jamais observé un ovni. Aucune source n'est encore mentionnée. Etes-vous entré en contact avec des organismes de sécurité ou avez-vous réellement avec votre personnel regardé beaucoup de films ? Si l'on entre [security camera UFOs] dans Google, on obtient un nombre énorme de sites. Évidemment, certains de ces sites se rapportent à des caméras de sécurité auxquelles on a donné la forme d'ovnis. Cependant, uniquement à la première page, 7 des 10 sites proposés traitent d'observations d'ovnis faites par des caméras de sécurité. Puisque celles-ci ne sont pas normalement employées dans un tel but, il semble fortement probable que beaucoup plus en aient enregistrés mais que cela n'ait pas été noté.
Après avoir travaillé en tant que physicien nucléaire pendant 14 années sur une grande variété de systèmes nucléaires et spatiaux avancés secrets dans de grandes entreprises, j'ai été stupéfait par votre affirmation qui si l'évidence de la présence d'Aliens avait été découverte, cela aurait été étalé partout dans les médias. Comment pouvez-vous être aussi naïf ? Je n'ai évidemment aucune information qui m'indique que vous avez travaillé pour la Sécurité ou que vous ayez visité l'une des 20 archives documentaires que j'ai visitées. Cependant, il n'y a pas beaucoup d'effort à faire pour trouver un grand nombre d'exemples de programmes scientifiques énormément importants, conduits hors de la connaissance du public. Les opérations de la première réaction en chaîne nucléaire auto-entretenue d'Enrico Fermi et de ses collègues de l'Université de Chicago le 2 décembre 1942, a été conduite en secret, en dépit de son importance extraordinaire. Il y avait 12 000 personnes à Bletchley Park en Angleterre pendant la 2è guerre mondiale, interceptant les communications militaires secrètes allemandes déchiffrant les codes, traduisant et distribuant très soigneusement les informations aux destinataires appropriés qui devaient avoir besoin de les connaître. Ce fut d'un grand secours pour gagner la plus mauvaise guerre de l'histoire. Rien n'a été rendu public pendant 25 ans. Le "Naval Research Laboratory" a développé et a finalement lancé avec succès un certain nombre de satellites espions "Corona". Le premier dans les années 60 a obtenu plus d'informations sur les installations militaires soviétiques que tous les vols secrets de l'avion U2 qui avaient précédé. Cependant, la première information du public a eu lieu en 1995. L'énorme "Super Secret National Reconnaissance Office", dont l'existence a été secrète pendant longtemps, a lancé sept très coûteux satellites "Poppy" entre 1962 et 1971. Son rôle était de surveiller les bateaux soviétiques en mer. La première information du public a été faite en 2005. En novembre de 2007 le New York Times, USA News et le World Report ont rendu compte de l'annulation d'un contrat du NRO (National Reconnaissance Office) avec Boeing. C'était le "Future Imagery Architecture", dont le coût était estimé à 18 milliards de dollars. Il n'y avait eu aucune information publique avant l'annonce de son annulation. Le développement de l'avion de chasse furtif a duré 10 ans et a coûté 10 milliards de dollars et il a été fait en secret.
Maintenant vous et le Dr. Shermer pourriez dire "mais c'étaient tous des programmes militaires". Je suspecte, sur la base de la littérature sceptique et sur celle du SETI, que vous n'avez même pas pris en considération les aspects de sécurité nationale induits par l'énigme des soucoupes volantes. Vous pouvez sûrement comprendre que le premier pays capable de reproduire les possibilités de vol des soucoupes volantes, qui peuvent de toute évidence voler en faisant des cercles autour de quelque chose que nous Terriens nous faisons voler, ce pays régnerait sur le monde. Il serait un grand fournisseur d'armes et aurait de bons systèmes de défense. En outre, chaque pays voudrait se préserver du fait que d'autres pays sachent ce qu'ils ont appris concernant la technologie des instruments sophistiqués qui contrôlent les caractéristiques de vol des ovnis depuis des plateformes d'interception et des satellites espions, et concernant l'examen d'une épave récupérée près de Roswell en 1947 (ou ailleurs). Essayez de lire mon livre "Crash at Corona: The Definitive Study of the Roswell Incident". Chaque pays voudrait également savoir ce que les services de renseignement et les communautés scientifiques des pays ont appris. Une des nombreuses implications sérieuses d'une annonce de la réalité des soucoupes volantes est que beaucoup de gens pourraient vouloir se considérer eux-mêmes comme des Terriens plutôt que de garder leurs vieilles étiquettes nationalistes. Aucun gouvernement ne veut de cela. Vous pourriez prendre en considération les implications des ordres donnés aux pilotes militaires en 1952 "abattez les ovnis s'ils n'atterrissent pas après avoir reçu l'ordre de le faire". (Lisez le nouveau livre "Shoot Them Down" de Frank Feschino Junior). J'ai écrit l'avant-propos et l'épilogue.
Je réalise que je viens de faire quelques commentaires énergiques. Mais les affirmations d'un scientifique de l'Etat nécessitent beaucoup plus de recherches que celles que vous avez mis en avant. Dr. Shermer a organisé un certain nombre de débats au Beckman Auditorium de la CalTech. Je serais heureux de participer avec l'un ou l'autre d'entre vous ou les deux ensemble, à une discussion publique formelle avec un modérateur, etc… Je suis sûr que je peux trouver un autre scientifique qui a étudié cette évidence, pour être à mes côtés sur la question "Les soucoupes volantes sont-elles réelles?". Je serais également disposé à parler au Centre de Recherches d'Ames de la NASA, sur la base de mes frais personnels engagés uniquement. Libre à vous de faire un bénéfice en faisant payer l'entrée. Il y a abondance d'informations sur moi-même et les soucoupes volantes sur mon site Web: www.stantonfriedman.com. Je peux fournir des témoignages de clients satisfaits. Bien cordialement, en attendant votre réponse avec intérêt, Stanton T. Friedman
cc Michael Shermer
Source: MUFON UFO JOURNAL n°477 de janvier 2008 – Traduction Jacky Kozan http://www.mufon.com
LA PHOTO DE TONY HARTONO - OUEST DE JAVA (INDONÉSIE) 22 SEPTEMBRE 1975
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Impact initiatique du phénomène OVNI. Écrit et illustré par Anne Duflot Dont une interview avec Vincent Michel, fils du regretté Aimé Michel[1]. Version de 2007 revue et augmentée.
En cas de citation de passages de cet article, merci de veiller à ce qu’ils soient retranscrits fidèlement mot pour mot sans en omettre les notes de fin et la bibliographie, d’en préciser le titre, l’auteur, et le site où il est publié, et de procéder de même pour ses copies intégrales ou celles de ses illustrations et les réponses de Vincent Michel . Depuis 1997, année où j'ai adhéré au G.E.R.U[2], j’assiste régulièrement à ses réunions ouvertes au public[3]. Lors de celles-ci, nos membres ont l’opportunité de communiquer leurs recherches sur un sujet de leur choix, exclusion faite des aspects confessionnels ou politiques qu’ils pourraient suggérer. En effet, notre association s'est fixée comme objectif d'étudier en priorité le phénomène ovni à partir de rapports d’observation et d’enquêtes, mais aussi des documents bibliographiques et audio-visuels. Mon adhésion au G.E.R.U avait été motivée par mon expérience de channeling que j’ai relatée dans un de mes articles publiés dans Info Sixième SENS[4], bulletin interne de notre association amie: Sixième SENS[5]; puis dans le magazine Parasciences & Transcommunications[6] publié par JMG-éditions et, plus récemment, sur le site Internet Signes des temps[7] . J’ai pu constater que les témoignages relatifs aux contactés par de supposés extraterrestres, désignés par le terme " abductés " en cas d’enlèvements[8] par ces mêmes entités, restaient un aspect de notre champ d’étude mal perçu par certains de nos adhérents. Afin de leur permettre, de même à nos enquêteurs, d’accueillir et d’étudier avec le plus d’objectivité possible ce type très particulier de cas, je décidai donc de les aborder pendant notre séance publique du 9 décembre 2001. Lors d’un exposé précédant, Jean-Pierre D’Hondt, notre responsable des enquêtes, avait évoqué l’hypothèse initiatique du phénomène ovni. Cela m'inspirant d’aborder ce sujet, si vaste et controversé, en tant qu’impact initiatique du phénomène ovni, l’initiation signifiant : "L’action de donner à quelqu’un la connaissance de certaines choses qu’il ignorait." [9] Cette approche s'imposa d'autant plus à moi pendant mes recherches de documents. Ils me révélèrent en effet que le phénomène ovni activerait chez les " contactés "[10] non seulement une ouverture de conscience leur permettant d’accéder à d’autres connaissances ne correspondant pas à leurs centres d’intérêt habituels, mais aussi leurs facultés paranormales ou " psi ".[11] Certains d’entre eux, athées jusqu’à leur rencontre rapprochée, auraient même intégré par la suite une dimension religieuse ou spirituelle à leur existence. Puis, un de mes articles fut publié sous le même titre dans les numéros 61 à 67 de notre bulletin interne UFOVNI , ceci dans le but d’en partager le compte-rendu exhaustif à nos adhérents trop éloignés géographiquement pour nous rejoindre lors de nos rencontres mensuelles. En outre, il m'a permis d'en documenter d'autres relatifs à mon expérience de channeling. Celui-ci en est la dernière version revue et augmentée, certains lecteurs y trouveront donc des passages ne leur étant pas inconnus. L'année suivante, je proposai également ce thème de réflexion à la rédaction de France Bleu Nord qui m’invita à le développer sur leurs ondes avec Jean-Pierre D’Hondt. Ceci fut concrétisé le 11 juin 2002 lors d’une de leurs émissions animées par Agnès Delbarre dont nous pûmes apprécier la réelle ouverture d’esprit.
Cette approche des cas de contacts rapprochés et d'abductions ne pouvant faire l'impasse sur des domaines tels que la parapsychologie, voire même l’ésotérisme, la métaphysique et la philosophie, je réalisais alors qu’elle s’avérait délicate et risquerait de choquer certains ufologues ayant opté pour une étude basée davantage sur des faits concrets, ou si vous préférez de type "tôles et boulons". Mon propos n’est pas de contrer cette option privilégiée notamment par notre groupement ufologique, mais simplement de proposer une recherche abordant davantage ces témoignages sous leur angle humain et socioculturel. Loin de moi l’intention de nourrir une polémique, la finalité de cet article étant plutôt de vous suggérer quelques pistes susceptibles de vous aider dans vos recherches. Je n’y prétends pas donner, encore moins imposer mes réponses à ce sujet abstrus, mais uniquement des éléments de réflexion basés sur des sources prioritairement bibliographiques, sans exclure des références émanant de sites Internet, et dont les listes figurent à la fin. Je tiens à m’excuser auprès des lecteurs pouvant trouver fastidieuses mes nombreuses annotations relatives à ces documents. Elles m’ont semblé incontournables, ne serait-ce que par honnêteté intellectuelle et pour aider ceux d’entre vous qui décideraient d’approfondir cette recherche. Je remercie tout particulièrement Vincent Michel, pour le temps qu'il a bien voulu consacrer aux réponses à mes questions; sans oublier Jean-Pierre D’Hondt, mon mari, pour son aide précieuse concernant la documentation de cet article.
J’aborderai donc ce sujet au-delà de tous préjugés en m’inspirant du conseil de Feu Aimé Michel : "En ufologie il faut savoir tout envisager mais surtout ne rien croire. " et vous propose d’accueillir le fruit de mes réflexions avec la même démarche intellectuelle. Mais, auparavant, permettez-moi de me présenter et de vous soumettre mon point de vue sur l’ufologie.
Mes activités au G.E.R.U.
Au moment où j’écris ces lignes je suis membre bénévole actif en tant, entre autres, que responsable de communication et adjointe aux enquêtes, notamment lorsqu’elles concernent des témoignages associés à des phénomènes paranormaux. Dans ce cas il nous arrive de travailler en partenariat avec une association amie : Sixième SENS[12] dont je suis membre également. J’étais présente rencontres ufologiques européennes s’étant déroulées à Châlons-en-Champagne en octobre 2005, rencontres organisées par Gérard Lebat et Alain Blanchard. Je faisais partie de l’équipe chargée d’aider notre président Joël Duquesnoy pour la tenue de notre stand[13].
Mon point de vue sur l’ufologie.
Je rejoins l’opinion d’Aimé Michel qui estimait que l’étude du phénomène ovni génère plus de questions que de réponses, qu’elle n’est pas encore une science, et suggérait que seul un travail en interdisciplinarité s’avèrerait efficace. Personnellement, je pense que l’ufologie est une science en cours de structuration. Il s’écoulera encore un certain temps avant qu’elle ne puisse se forger l’intégralité des outils lui étant nécessaires, d’autant, nous le verrons, qu’elle interfère avec des domaines aussi divers que la météorologie, l’astronomie, la chimie, la physique et notamment la physique quantique, la psychologie et la sociologie, la psychiatrie et les neurosciences, la parapsychologie, l’histoire, l’archéologie, la philosophie, voire même certains aspects de la spiritualité. La science actuelle, hormis sa méthodologie, ne semble pas, pour l’instant, en mesure de nous aider à cerner avec rigueur un des aspects les plus ardus de l’ufologie que je vais tenter de développer dans cet article. En attendant que les spécialistes des différents domaines scientifiques, consentent à élucider les énigmes générées par les manifestations d’ovnis, ceci dans le cadre d’un travail d’équipe effectué en complémentarité selon leurs aptitudes, celle-ci restera assimilée à ce que je nommerai de la "loufoquelogie", car trop souvent présentée au grand public par une approche se voulant sensationnelle. Des expressions telles que : "Les Petits Hommes Verts" ou "les Martiens existent-ils ?", usitées presque systématiquement lorsqu’on traite de ce sujet, ne font qu’ajouter à son discrédit. Certaines polémiques, ont contribué à parachever la désinformation dont elle est victime. Ce constat négatif ne doit pas nous inciter à négliger pour autant le travail des chercheurs honnêtes et sérieux, sans exclure ceux spécialisés ou non dans des domaines très divers. Cependant, nous verrons comment certains ont eu l’audace d'aborder l’ufologie au niveau de son impact sur le plan humain, ceci en instruisant le sujet sulfureux des abductés et des contactés; sulfureux, car pouvant remettre en cause nos acquis religieux et spirituels.
Excitant notre curiosité, on peut considérer que l’ufologie nous entraîne dans un processus initiatique d’abord sur le plan intellectuel, puis spirituel, ceci en nous menant à effectuer une recherche autodidacte d’éléments de réponse parfois dans des domaines éloignés jusqu’alors de nos centres d’intérêt.
Ma définition de l’ufologue.
J’estime personnellement que pour être ufologue, il n’est pas nécessaire d’être titulaire d’un diplôme scientifique. Seuls devraient suffire un esprit ouvert, structuré, rigoureux autodidacte, et un goût prononcé pour la recherche éclectique autant de terrain que livresque. Dans un livre publié en 2001 aux Éditions Calmann-Lévy sous le titre : " La science à l’usage des non scientifiques "[14], Albert Jacquard, polytechnicien et généticien français, étaye sa conviction que la science n’est pas réservée à une élite, mais peut être accessible à tout esprit avide de connaissance. Son livre a pour but également d’initier les néophytes aux bases élémentaires de celle-ci.
Je vous invite maintenant à explorer ensemble l’univers si étrange et déconcertant des "contactés" et "abductés".
Scénario-type d’une abduction
Le témoin est seul ou accompagné, chez lui, dans un endroit isolé ou en ville. Il perçoit une lumière vive, le plus souvent des êtres de forme humanoïde. Soudain, l’abducté réalise avec stupéfaction qu’il se trouve très éloigné de l’endroit où il se trouvait auparavant. Il constate alors que des minutes, voire des heures, sinon des jours, se sont écoulés sans qu’il en ait eu conscience. Il se souvient que très rarement de ce qu’il a vécu pendant tout ce temps manquant ou missing-time, de même les personnes présentes à ses côtés. Il découvre parfois sur son corps des cicatrices et des brûlures inexistantes auparavant. On a pu extraire chez certains des implants d’origine inconnue situés dans les pieds ou les poignets[15]. Les abductés, à l’instar des contactés, éprouvent fréquemment, suite à leur rencontre rapprochée, de profonds bouleversements d’ordre psycho spirituel, surtout lorsqu’elle s’ensuit, dans certains cas, d’une guérison spontanée.
L’approche des témoins ayant vécu ce type d’expérience plutôt traumatisante s’avère donc délicate à plus d’un titre, d’autant que ces personnes souffrent de ne pouvoir communiquer leur témoignage de peur d’être qualifiées d’ "illuminées" par les gens ignorant tout des transformations et souffrances qu’elles ont subies suite à leurs expériences, les cantonnant ainsi en marge de la norme.
Revenons à notre sujet.
Cette marginalisation que subissent les contactés déjà suffisamment désemparés, surtout lorsqu’ils ont été abductés, peut les plonger dans une dépression grave, et même les assujettir à une thérapie psychiatrique les lobotomisant chimiquement; alors qu’un accompagnement psychologique éclairé, basé avant tout sur une écoute active, aurait été, de loin, bien plus efficace ! Leur contact avec une dimension qui leur était totalement inconnue induit parfois chez certains d’entre eux des états modifiés de conscience, ou E.M.C., assimilés hélas encore trop systématiquement à des psychoses par la plupart des psychologues et des psychiatres. Ignoreraient-ils que ce type d’état de conscience, générant dans certaines conditions des phénomènes paranormaux, n’est plus considéré par le corps médical comme cas psychiatrique ?
Érik Pigani, scientifique par sa formation de psychologue et sa qualité de psychothérapeute[16], communique cette information cruciale pour les personnes osant s’intéresser aux phénomènes qualifiés de "paranormaux", voire même en témoigner; ceci dans son livre intitulé "Channels – Les voix de l’au-delà"[17]. Il nous apprend qu’en 1994, il y a de cela déjà plus de dix ans, grâce à l’intervention des professionnels de la psychologie transpersonnelle; l’American Psychiatric Association (APA) aurait accepté d’inclure un nouveau paragraphe dans le DSM-IV[18]. Je cite : " Les états "psychospirituels" (crises mystiques, communications avec l’au-delà, N.D.E, etc.) ne sont plus considérés comme les effets d’un désordre mental. Ils font désormais partie de l’expérience humaine "normale" et peuvent être soutenus, si nécessaire, par une assistance psychologique, et non réglés avec un traitement psychiatrique, comme auparavant. " Il nous informe que le Président de l’American Psychological Association, Stanley Krippner, définit les facultés parapsychologiques comme n’étant en rien pathologiques mais inhérentes à la psyché humaine. L’auteur redéfinit l’expression " états modifiés de conscience ". D’aucuns persistent à utiliser l’expression " états altérés de conscience " pour les désigner, tournure obsolète car devenue caduque.
John E. Mack [19], professeur de psychiatrie à Harvard, hélas décédé, s'est penché sur les expériences très perturbantes vécues par les abductés. Je ferai souvent référence à ses recherches insuffisamment médiatisées en France.
Les abductions, une réalité qui dépasse la fiction, même en France.
Elles ont bien eu lieu partout dans le monde, également sur le territoire français où les témoins, de peur de passer pour fous, hésitent encore à relater leur expérience, d’où le peu de témoignages y ayant été recensés. Voici, à partir de documents de LDLN [20], une liste de cas d’abductions répertoriés en France réalisée par Jean-Pierre D’Hondt, responsable des enquêtes pour le G.E.R.U. et co-fondateur du G.N.E.O.V.N.I. Il correspond avec Joël Mesnard, directeur de ce périodique. Monsieur Mesnard a tenu son propre stand et des conférences aux rencontres ufologiques à Châlons-En-Champagne. Il est également l’auteur d’un livre paru récemment sur les " Men in black[21] ". Il est intervenu à plusieurs reprises sur les ondes de la RADIO ICI & MAINTENANT Cas d’abductions répertoriés en France.
J'espère que cet article incitera les abductés français restés dans l'ombre à briser la loi du silence. La médiatisation des cas d’abductions.
Budd Hopkins et Marie-Thérèse de Brosses ont contribué largement à leur médiatisation, et continuent de nos jours. Ils donnèrent des conférences[25] à ce sujet aux premières rencontres Ufologiques européennes en 2005. Budd Hopkins, auteur américain, est célèbre pour son ouvrage qui leva bien des tabous pesant sur ce type de cas: Enlèvements extraterrestres. Les témoins parlent[26]. Il suivit celui de l’abducté américain très célèbre: Whitley Strieber, auteur entre autres d’un livre intitulé " Communion "[27] dans lequel il décrit sa propre expérience et les circonstances de sa rencontre avec Budd Hopkins. L’homologue français de Monsieur Hopkins, Marie-Thérèse de Brosses, nous relate les circonstances de sa rencontre avec lui dans son ouvrage intitulé: Enquête sur les enlèvements extraterrestres[28]. Plus récemment en 2006, Stéphane Allix, ancien reporter de guerre, a commis un livre sur ce sujet également. Il s'intitule: "Extraterrestre: L'enquête[29]"
Qu’on croit ou non au phénomène ovni, il semblerait qu'il exerce néanmoins un impact réel sur les témoins, mais aussi notre culture et par conséquent, notre société. Voyons comment.
Les domaines de l’impact initiatique du phénomène ovni.
Dans son article publié dans le numéro de la revue ufologique Inforespace[30] de décembre 1991, Jacques Antoine souligne que le phénomène ovni influencerait l’évolution des mentalités en suscitant le rêve, la réflexion dans certains domaines de la recherche même en exobiologie, " la littérature, le cinéma et la pub ". Les enfants, eux-mêmes, s’en inspirent pour leurs activités ludiques. Christel Seval, informaticien au ministère de la défense, a développé les répercussions que pourrait avoir cet impact dans les différents domaines de l’activité humaine dans son ouvrage intitulé : " Extraterrestres. Contact et Impact "[31]
Voyons maintenant les répercussions de cet impact sur les contactés et abductés, et leurs similitudes avec celles éprouvées par des personnes ayant vécu une N.D.E[32].
Similitudes initiatiques entre une rencontre rapprochée et une N.D.E.
Lors de mes recherches, deux ouvrages ont particulièrement attiré mon attention : " PROJET OMÉGA – Expériences du troisième type – N.D.E " de Kenneth Ring[33] et " O.V.N.I Laboratoire du futur "[34] de Michel Picard, notamment l’idée-force suivante issue du livre de Kenneth Ring: À l’instar d’une expérience proche de la mort, une rencontre du troisième type[35] activerait également les facultés psi de certains témoins[36]
Dans son livre intitulé "O.V.N.I Laboratoire du futur "[37] Michel Picard avait consacré un chapitre concernant cette analogie. Lors de mon exposé en 2001 au G.E.R.U, j’avais déjà fait référence à cette version de son livre. L’année suivant mon exposé, JMG-éditions en publia une deuxième version complétée et intitulée: " Les Ovnis laboratoire du futur "[38] où on retrouve le même chapitre à la page 171, chapitre contenu dans son article publié en 2005 dans un des deux numéros Spécial ovnis de Parasciences & Transcommunication[39]. La quatrième partie des deux versions de cet ouvrage développe l’approche des ovnis en tant que, je cite "catalyseurs de l’évolution terrestre ".
Mais avant d’aller plus loin, une définition des facultés psi et de l’acronyme N.D.E s’impose.
Facultés Psi et N.D.E
Les facultés psi sont étudiées dans le cadre de la parapsychologie selon une méthodologie scientifique qui lui est spécifique. Érik Pigani[40], dans son livre PSI. Enquête sur les phénomènes paranormaux[41], définit la parapsychologie comme étant une science ayant pour objets d’étude la télépathie, la clairvoyance, la précognition et la psychokinèse[42]. Il distingue la parapsychologie de l’occultisme et l’ésotérisme.
Lors d’une N.D.E[43], " l’expérienceur ", c’est-à-dire le sujet, semblerait avoir une conscience indépendante du fonctionnement de ses cinq sens, et avoir accès à l’au-delà. Certains chercheurs ont constaté à juste titre que les visions perçues lors des expériences de mort imminentes, telles celles d’un tunnel ou d’une lumière vive, de même l’impression de flotter hors du corps, pouvaient être provoquées par une stimulation de certaines zones du cerveau ou un dysfonctionnement des lobes temporaux. Cette hypothèse est pertinente dans certains cas, mais pas pour tous. L'hypothèse des hallucinations ne serait pas la seule envisageable. Les personnes vivant une N.D.E sortiraient réellement de leur corps et iraient de l’autre côté du voile. Plusieurs associations en France ont fait de la N.D.E leur champ d’étude. Je ferai notamment référence ici à l’une d’entre elles: IANDS-France . Elle émane de l’International Association for Near Death Studies : IANDS, ou Association Internationale Pour l’Étude des États Proches de la Mort. Elle publie des cahiers édités trimestriellement auxquels il est possible de s’abonner: les Cahiers de IANDS-France[44]. Dans l'un d'entre eux [45] fut relatée une information des plus intéressantes et dont j’avais pris connaissance également lors de la diffusion d’un documentaire sur ARTE[46]. Il s’agit d’un cas commenté par Michael Sabom, cardiologue très connu pour son travail sur les N.D.E au tout début de la recherche. Je l'ai déjà cité dans d'autres de mes articles. Ce cas semblerait prouver que la conscience continuerait de fonctionner alors que le cerveau est désactivé. Il se produisit à Phœnix en 1991 lors d’une intervention chirurgicale sur un anévrisme où il fut nécessaire de vider le cerveau de son sang durant l’intervention, soit pendant une demi-heure. Afin que ce cerveau ne soit pas détruit au bout de 8 minutes on abaissa la température corporelle de la patiente à 15°5 Celsius. Alors que le cœur s’arrête, et que l’E.E.G est plat, Pam fait sa N.D.E. Lors de sa décorporation, elle fut à même de décrire, avec ses mots, la boîte à trépanation et les outils chirurgicaux qu’elle contenait. À son réveil elle put répéter les propos techniques échangés entre les membres de l’équipe chirurgicale, propos qui furent confirmés par le compte rendu d’opération. Dans ses conclusions, Michael Sabom invalide l'hypothèse que l’épilepsie du lobe temporal ou de l’activité électrique d’une partie du cerveau puissent être prises en compte en tant que facteurs déclencheurs d’une N.D.E ou E.F.M[47].
Sonia Barkallah a organisé le 17 juin 2006, à Martigues, un congrès consacré aux Expériences aux Frontières de la Mort. Dans son article intitulé: La preuve par quatre! paru dans le Numéro 63 de Parasciences[48], elle s'appuie notamment sur les travaux du Docteur Pim van Lommel, cardiologue hospitalier hollandais étant à même de prouver que la conscience existe indépendamment du cerveau. Voilà qui fait échos à la théorie de l'existence d’une " conscience non-locale " élaborée par Emmanuel Ransford, diplômé de l’E.N.S.A.E (statistique et science économique), et sur laquelle j'aurai l'occasion de revenir plus loin.
Les expériences proches de la mort ne devraient donc plus être assimilées à de douces rêveries vécues uniquement par des hallucinés.[49] Tous les expérienceurs et les contactés n’actualiseraient pas pour autant leurs facultés psi. Voyons quelles sont les prédispositions le permettant à certains d’entre eux.
Prédispositions chez les contactés permettant d’activer leurs facultés psi
Dans son livre : Projet Oméga, auquel Michel Picard fait également référence dans ses publications, Kenneth Ring nous apporte des réponses essentielles.[50] Les expérienceurs de N.D.E et les contactés prédisposés à l’activation de facultés psi les possèdent déjà à l’état latent et sont enclins à la dissociation. La dissociation est la faculté psychologique permettant de s’extraire d’une situation réelle désagréable en se projetant dans un autre univers mental, ce qui est une réaction saine dans certaines limites. Monsieur Ring précise que " la dissociation est un phénomène normal ". Elle n’est en rien pathologique sauf lorsqu’elle devient extrême et se manifeste par des troubles dissociatifs.
Réfléchissons maintenant sur les causes susceptibles de stimuler les facultés psi des contactés à l’instar des expérienceurs de N.D.E.
Causes pouvant activer les facultés psi chez les abductés et les contactés. La lecture du volume N°22 de l’encyclopédie Planète[51] m’avait inspiré trois causes susceptibles d’activer les facultés psi du témoin d’une rencontre rapprochée:
1. Choc émotionnel[52]. 2. Impact au niveau du subconscient. 3. L’influence de l’aura électromagnétique dégagée par l’ovni sur l’A.D.N et le cerveau du témoin. J’ai évoqué ces trois hypothèses lors de la réunion du GERU du 12 mars 2000. Depuis, une quatrième s’est imposée à moi. Elle me fut inspirée par les travaux de Bernard Auriol, médecin psychiatre et psychanalyste, relatifs, entre autres à la Psychosonique [53]. J’en fis la découverte sur Internet en 2006 lors de mes recherches de documents pour la rédaction de mon manuscrit sur mon expérience de channeling :
4. Les vibrations sonores dégagées par l’ovni, même si elles s’avèrent inaudibles dans certains cas, pourraient modifier le fonctionnement du cerveau du témoin et activer également ses facultés psi.
§ L’hypothèse du choc émotionnel.
Une série d’expériences à propos de la métagnomie ou clairvoyance ayant débuté le 6 janvier 1957 dans le laboratoire de l’Institut de Parapsychologie d’Utrecht[54], a permis de conclure, entre autres, qu’une forte tension émotionnelle activerait les facultés psi. Kenneth Ring émet le même constat dans son ouvrage " Projet Oméga "[55]; de même Djohar Si Ahmed[56], Docteur en psychologie et psychanalyse dans son livre : "Parapsychologie et psychanalyse[57]"
§ L’hypothèse d’un impact au niveau du subconscient.
Un élément symbolique évocateur agissant au niveau du subconscient stimulerait une intuition ou une prédiction. Je cite: " Dans tous les cas, et comme l’ont montré Myers et Leanning, de même qu’une image mentale est l’expression de l’image réelle formée par la rétine, une image mentale représentative peut donner naissance à une autre image qui se localise dans l’espace "[58] Ce processus me semble analogue à celui plus classique d’association d’idées : la vue d’une simple photo ou l’évocation d’un lieu réveillant en nous une foule de souvenirs enfouis aux tréfonds de notre mémoire. Le regretté John E. Mack, qui fut professeur de psychiatrie à Harvard et étudia des abductés pendant plusieurs années consécutives, a constaté que le témoin de rencontre du troisième type s’en souviendra comme d’un rêve.[59]
L’ovni a pu dégager une lumière ayant agi en tant que phosphène au niveau du subconscient du témoin et ayant ainsi activé ses facultés paranormales. Feu Docteur Lefébure, médecin et physiologue[60], a effectué des recherches sur les effets des phosphènes sur le subconscient et le développement des facultés intellectuelles et spirituelles qu’ils pouvaient induire. Selon ses propres termes le Phosphénisme®[61] est : l’étude des phosphènes et leur application au niveau pédagogique, et au niveau de la vie spirituelle… " " Les phosphènes sont des sensations lumineuses subjectives, c’est-à-dire celles qui ne sont pas directement causées par un rayon lumineux frappant la rétine. " " ..Cette tâche de lumière persistant après la vue d’une lumière forte et que l’on peut observer les yeux fermés est un post phosphène. Son objectif en pédagogie est de favoriser la concentration, la fixation de la pensée, le développement intellectuel et le contrôle de soi…. " Il estimait que la connexion du cerveau droit (intuitif) avec celui du cerveau gauche (intellectuel) au moyen de " l’exploration du cerveau par l’alternance des phosphènes doubles " peut nous aider à réveiller nos facultés "psi "[62]."
§ L’influence de l’aura électromagnétique dégagée par l’ovni sur le témoin.
Selon les propos de Michaël Persinger[63] évoqués dans "Projet Oméga" [64] la proximité des sources énergétiques naturelles, je cite, " aurait le maximum de chances de susciter une instabilité électrique dans le cerveau de l’observateur. Le type de symptômes et leur intensité varieraient en fonction de l’induction électrique à l’intérieur du cerveau."[65] On peut donc supposer que les symptômes, ou effets ainsi produits, pourraient être des hallucinations, mais aussi des visions provoquées par une ouverture de conscience. Cela expliquerait que certains témoins de rencontre du troisième type éprouveraient des E.M.C., (ou états modifiés de conscience), identiques à ceux provoqués par une N.D.E : sortie hors du corps avec vision d’un tunnel par exemple. Rappelons que des perturbations au niveau des lobes temporaux peuvent aussi induire les mêmes expériences d’expansion de conscience. Référons-nous à présent aux propos de Paul Devereux[66] émanant de la page 209 dans son ouvrage Earth Lights Revelation[67] et cités dans le livre de Kenneth Ring[68]. Des personnes, plus exposées au niveau du lobe temporal à des " mini attaques cérébrales ", seraient plus réceptives, je cite," aux stimuli correspondants. " " …Il est donc possible que lorsqu’un tel individu pénètre dans un champ magnétique associé à l’apparition de lumières, il subisse un " déclic " plus facilement qu’un autre individu électriquement moins sensible. "
L’influence de l’aura électromagnétique dégagée par l’ovni pourrait provoquer des E.M.C, mais aussi interagir avec L’A.D.N[69] du témoin. L’A.D.N, incluse dans les noyaux de nos cellules, contient les gènes. Le gène est une petite partie de l’A.D.N de la cellule. C’est une suite d’instructions codées que la cellule est capable de lire. " Les gènes sont les briques élémentaires du vivant : ils forment le point de départ de la longue chaîne de transformation chimique qui participe à la constitution d’un organisme complet » [70] Les ondes et radiations cosmiques influenceraient les êtres vivants via l’A.D.N, les noyaux cellulaires possédant des propriétés ferro-électriques et ferro-magnétiques agiraient comme des "semi-conducteurs "[71]. L’aura électromagnétique dégagée par l’ovni pourrait donc interagir avec l’A.D.N du témoin, et activer les gènes de son code génétique lui permettant de vivre des expériences "psi ". Hors il est intéressant de souligner que des modifications dans notre A.D.N ont été détectées par des scientifiques. Cette découverte fut effectuée à partir d’analyse de sang par le Dr Berrenda Fox, praticien de médecine holistique au Centre Avalon de Bien-Être, au Mount Shasta en Californie, Ces changements dans notre A.D.N s’effectueraient conjointement à notre évolution[72]. J’en fis part dans deux de mes articles[73].
Il reste, maintenant, une quatrième hypothèse que je n’ai pas développée dans la première version de celui-ci, celle de l’effet du son. Comme je l’ai déjà précisé auparavant, elle m’a été inspirée notamment par les travaux de Bernard Auriol relatifs, entre autres, à la "psychosonique[74]", c'est-à-dire l'étude des effets psychologiques du son.
§ Influence du son dégagé par l’ovni sur le cerveau du témoin.
Nous avons tous éprouvé les effets qu’exerce la musique sur le plan émotionnel, voire même sentimental. Elle peut même nous relaxer au point t’atteindre un état proche de la béatitude identique à celui vécu par les mystiques. Cet état modifié de conscience débriderait nos facultés psi, hélas inhibées par une prédilection occidentale à l’exercice de l’intellect prédominant sur celui de l’intuition.
Le son exercerait une influence sur la charge électrique du cerveau. Bernard Auriol, médecin psychiatre et psychanalyste, cite Tomatis dans un de ses articles publiés sur son site Internet Stress, Yoga et Psychotronique: " L’oreille n’a pas été uniquement faite pour écouter; c’est un organe de charge en potentiel électrique du cerveau "[75] Or, dans le cadre des travaux de Michaël Persinger, nous avons vu précédemment que l’on pouvait provoquer des états modifiés de conscience en perturbant l’activité électrique du cerveau, notamment au niveau des lobes temporaux. Toujours dans le même article, Bernard Auriol évoque l’effet des sons et des mantras dans la pratique du Vajrayana[76] par les moines tibétains[77], et des sons très graves sur le chakra de base[78]. Le Dalaï Lama a ouvert un congrès de neurosciences en novembre 2003 à Washington auquel participaient 30 000 spécialistes. Une étude scientifique a été menée sur " l’impact de la méditation dans l’activité cérébrale des moines bouddhistes[79]. " Ces méditations intègrent l’énoncé de mantra et des sons produits par des bols " chantants " et des percussions. La pratique régulière de la méditation, activerait l’ouverture des chakras[80] permettant ainsi la montée de la Kundalini le long de la colonne vertébrale jusqu’au septième centre situé au-dessus du sommet du crâne. La montée de la kundalini s’accompagne souvent de l’activation d’E.M.C et de facultés psi. La Kundalini est la force vitale qui nous permet de nous maintenir en vie au moyen de l’inspiration et de l’expiration.[81]
Il semblerait donc que le phénomène ovni exercerait un impact sur la psyché des abductés et les contactés. Mais ses effets ne s'arrêtent pas là. Voyons maintenant ses répercussions sur leur personnalité. Impacts du phénomène ovni sur la personnalité des contactés.
§ Répercussions sur leur constitution physique.
Il arrive que les contacts rapprochés provoquent des guérisons spontanées chez certains témoins. Je citerai en exemple le célèbre cas du Docteur X qui ne fut pas enlevé. Je me baserai sur la description qu’en a fait Jacques Vallée[82]. En voici le résumé : La nuit du 1er au 2 novembre 1968, à 4 heures du matin, le Docteur X vécut avec son fils une rencontre du troisième type. Après cette rencontre, son épouse lui fit remarquer la disparition complète de l’hématome qu’il avait à la jambe, de même les séquelles d’une blessure de guerre : hémiparésie du côté droit. Le 17 novembre un triangle rouge finissait par apparaître très nettement autour de son nombril. Il avait perdu du poids et se sentait très fatigué.
Des témoins subiraient des manipulations physiques très éprouvantes touchant même à leur intimité. Feu John E. Mack, professeur de psychiatrie à Harvard a fait un descriptif exhaustif des agressions physiques subies par les abductés : grossesses interrompues, lésions ou implants[83] découverts sur et dans le corps des victimes qui souffrent de migraines et de saignements de nez, des petites grosseurs sous la peau, éprouvent une grande fatigue au réveil et, je cite : " …l’impression d’avoir subi des épreuves infernales. [84] "
§ Les conséquences psychologiques, voire même parapsychologiques. Dans le même ouvrage[85], John E. Mack précise que les abductés sont souvent très traumatisés par leur enlèvement et souffrent, pour certains, du " syndrome de Stockholm[86] ". Les témoins doivent faire face à des crises psychospirituelles devant lesquelles la psychologie traditionnellement reconnue se trouve désarmée. Ils " ..relatent des phénomènes d’expansion de la conscience ou de sa séparation d’avec le corps,… "[87], de remontée dans le temps, d’évocation de vies antérieures lors de séances d’hypnose, l’impression d’avoir une double identité, à la fois humaine et extraterrestre. Certains sujets, lors de leur expérience, sont remontés " …vers la source de l’être dans le cosmos, et qu’ils nomment leur " Foyer "… " pour lequel ils éprouvent une profonde nostalgie, au point qu’ils répugnent d'être incarnés sur Terre, même si cette incarnation est justifiée par une mission qu’ils auraient à accomplir et qui aurait pour but l’avènement d’un nouvel état de conscience parmi les hommes. D’autres se sentent seuls et abandonnés face à l’horreur qu’ils subissent.[88]
L’intégralité de la personnalité de ces témoins se trouve donc fondamentalement bouleversée. Il en est de même de leur perception sensorielle, sociale et spirituelle du monde qui les entoure. Leur expérience aurait activé chez eux une ouverture de conscience très particulière. On est donc en droit de se demander si le phénomène ovni ne ferait pas partie d’un processus initiatique et participerait de ce fait à l’évolution de la conscience de l’humanité, ce phénomène se manifestant depuis la nuit des temps et partout dans le monde, contrairement aux idées reçues, et comme le démontre Thibaut Canuti[89] |